# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 334
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6669 "2019-07-30T00:21:50Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Trump tells 9/11 First Responders “I was down there also”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-911-first-responders-victims-tower-september-11-a9025556.html?fbclid=IwAR0jtaT20zoAzBQCB4_bRel2JeLZn0tKUhBOQeRMfIhj_piyWilX9E1dPHk) > This guy is completely unhinged. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Jon Stewart should have called him out on that as soon as the words left his mouth. But he didn’t, and so now we have to live with knowing that Trump has claimed and will claim to have been at Ground Zero, and many people will believe him and defend the claim. > We cannot let this man get away with anything; CALL HIM OUT! It’s a massively offensive claim. There’s a name for this sort of nasty fakery: stolen valor. Today’s speech to actual 9-11 responders was the occasion for revisiting some of Trump’s other questionable claims: > [@](#): > > “Everyone who helped clear the rubble – and I was there, and I watched, and I helped a little bit – but I want to tell you: Those people were amazing,” Trump said in a speech in Buffalo in 2016. “Clearing the rubble. Trying to find additional lives. You didn’t know what was going to come down on all of us – and they handled it.” > > He has also claimed that he helped pay for several hundred workers to help clean up the wreckage in the aftermath of 9/11. Independent fact-check sites have been unable to verify that claim. [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/politics/donald-trump-9-11-first-responders/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/politics/donald-trump-9-11-first-responders/index.html) Vox’s article, out today, has an even blunter title: “_ **Trump commemorates 9/11 first responders by making it all about him** _.” > [@](#): > > Snopes investigated Trump’s 2016 claim by speaking to officials from the New York City Fire Department (FDNY) and construction demolitions experts who were at Ground Zero in the hours and days after the 9/11 attacks. Nobody could recall even seeing Trump at the site. Snopes also details how Trump has a history of exaggerating the role his company played in the recovery efforts. > > During a 2015 rally, Trump claimed he watched the 9/11 attacks from a window in Trump Tower. > > “Many people jumped and I witnessed it, I watched that,” he said. > > There’s just one problem — Trump Tower is more than four miles away from ground zero, so that claim too appears to be an exaggeration at best. > **[Trump commemorates 9/11 first responders by making it all about him](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/29/8934904/trump-9-11-first-responders-event)** > > It was incredibly gauche. It was classic Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6670 "2019-07-30T00:28:12Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Trump tells 9/11 First Responders “I was down there also”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-911-first-responders-victims-tower-september-11-a9025556.html?fbclid=IwAR0jtaT20zoAzBQCB4_bRel2JeLZn0tKUhBOQeRMfIhj_piyWilX9E1dPHk) > This guy is completely unhinged. It’s impressive how on 9/11 he was simultaneously down there as a first responder, watching Muslims celebrate the destruction of the towers and being interviewed on the news bragging that he owned the tallest building now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6671 "2019-07-30T00:28:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s a massively offensive claim. There’s a name for this sort of nasty fakery: stolen valor. Stolen valor? Trump? Never! Why, he’s the mostest bestest lover of America’s heroes ever, didn’t you know? On a serious note: every damn day, that cretin shows that there is no bar too low for him to slither under. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6672 "2019-07-30T00:40:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Stolen valor? Trump? Never! Why, he’s the mostest bestest lover of America’s heroes ever, didn’t you know? > > On a serious note: every damn day, that cretin shows that there is no bar too low for him to slither under. And this slime-creature has designs on fascist power, as has been demonstrated time and again. It may be a completely-unrelated coincidence that one of the first hits that come up with a search of “stolen valor,” “Trump,” “claim,” and “9-11”, apparently just isn’t there: > [@](#): > > Trump Lied About 9/11 Donations, Took $150K From Recovery Program > [https://talkingpointsmemo.com](https://talkingpointsmemo.com) › News › DC > Sep 11, 2018 - Immediately after the 9/11 attacks, Trump incorrectly claimed that his 40 Wall Street building was the tallest in the city following the fall of the … That search result is the sixth from the top of the list. Clicking on it does get a [talkingpointsmemo.com](http://talkingpointsmemo.com) page URL, but a blank page: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-lied-about-9-11-donations-took-150k-from-recovery-program](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-lied-about-9-11-donations-took-150k-from-recovery-program) Here’s a page you get to when you search “Trump lied about 9-11” at the TPM site itself; the article is second down. And, again, you get a blank page when you click on it: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/search/Trump+lied+about+9-11](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/search/Trump+lied+about+9-11) Maybe it’s just me. Here’s the information on the article from that second page: > [@](#): > > Trump Lied About 9/11 Donations, Took $150K From Recovery Program > By Cameron Joseph | September 11, 2018 11:51 am … Obviously I’m not claiming that slime-creature Trump is smart enough to be removing results from the Internet. But he does have some people working for him who could probably manage it. But…yeah, could be just a coincidence. Hope we don’t start seeing a lot of missing search results as time goes on, though. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6673 "2019-07-30T03:35:24Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > It’s impressive how on 9/11 he was simultaneously down there as a first responder, watching Muslims celebrate the destruction of the towers and being interviewed on the news bragging that he owned the tallest building now. And even before that, Trump helped the troops in the Revolutionary War take the airports. Trump doesn’t like to brag, so not many people know that. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6674 "2019-07-30T03:45:40Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > And even before that, Trump helped the troops in the Revolutionary War take the airports. Trump doesn’t like to brag, so not many people know that. Even then, George Washington knew that Trump would be the greatest President. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6675 "2019-07-30T23:50:38Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > … It may be a completely-unrelated coincidence that one of the first hits that come up with a search of “stolen valor,” “Trump,” “claim,” and “9-11”, apparently just isn’t there: > > That search result is the sixth from the top of the list. Clicking on it does get a [talkingpointsmemo.com](http://talkingpointsmemo.com) page URL, but a blank page: > > [Trump Lied About 9/11 Donations, Took $150K From Recovery Program - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trump-lied-about-9-11-donations-took-150k-from-recovery-program) > … Still a blank page. TPM does give you, for some articles you click on, a page that says ‘you can see this if you become a member’ (or words to that effect). But that’s not what this blank page is about. It’s just a missing article on the topic of Trump lying about donations he claimed to have made to 9-11 causes. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6676 "2019-07-31T00:01:10Z")
Saw a comment today that noted, “Trump spent as much time at Ground Zero as he did in Vietnam.” ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6677 "2019-07-31T06:32:43Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s a massively offensive claim. There’s a name for this sort of nasty fakery: stolen valor. I know Trump keeps trying to set the bar lower and lower on a daily basis but I am surprised this isn’t generating more outrage. I’m not even American and I think it’s astoundingly shitty for Trump to be making claims that he was there and he helped and he sent people and so on when we know that’s bullshit. We also know that his reaction at the time was to say that he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan. 3,000 Americans dead and the rubble hadn’t even settled yet and Trump is bragging about how tall his building is? Giving thanks to the people who just declared war on the US for buffing his ego? Regardless of one’s place on the political spectrum, Trump wiping his ass with 9/11 should piss people off. Tomorrow I am sure Trump will say some other dumb shit about something else but I hope these comments dog him for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6678 "2019-07-31T20:34:06Z")
Trump has pissed off the leadership of the National Cathedral, who posted [this](https://cathedral.org/have-we-no-decency-a-response-to-president-trump.html) yesterday: > [@National Cathedral Leaders](#): > > The escalation of racialized rhetoric from the President of the United States has evoked responses from all sides of the political spectrum. On one side, African American leaders have led the way in rightfully expressing outrage. On the other, those aligned with the President seek to downplay the racial overtones of his attacks, or remain silent. > > As faith leaders who serve at Washington National Cathedral ¬– the sacred space where America gathers at moments of national significance – we feel compelled to ask: After two years of President Trump’s words and actions, when will Americans have enough? > > \ > > This week, President Trump crossed another threshold. Not only did he insult a leader in the fight for racial justice and equality for all persons; not only did he savage the nations from which immigrants to this country have come; but now he has condemned the residents of an entire American city. Where will he go from here? > > Make no mistake about it, words matter. And, Mr. Trump’s words are dangerous. > > These words are more than a “dog-whistle.” When such violent dehumanizing words come from the President of the United States, they are a clarion call, and give cover, to white supremacists who consider people of color a sub-human “infestation” in America. They serve as a call to action from those people to keep America great by ridding it of such infestation. Violent words lead to violent actions. > > When does silence become complicity? What will it take for us all to say, with one voice, that we have had enough? The question is less about the president’s sense of decency, but of ours. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6679 "2019-07-31T23:20:06Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I know Trump keeps trying to set the bar lower and lower on a daily basis but I am surprised this isn’t generating more outrage. I’m not even American and I think it’s astoundingly shitty for Trump to be making claims that he was there and he helped and he sent people and so on when we know that’s bullshit. We also know that his reaction at the time was to say that he now owned the tallest building in Manhattan. 3,000 Americans dead and the rubble hadn’t even settled yet and Trump is bragging about how tall his building is? Giving thanks to the people who just declared war on the US for buffing his ego? > > Regardless of one’s place on the political spectrum, Trump wiping his ass with 9/11 should piss people off. Tomorrow I am sure Trump will say some other dumb shit about something else but I hope these comments dog him for a long time. Yes, well said: this latest vile conduct deserves to be remembered by all. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6680 "2019-07-31T23:46:05Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Regardless of one’s place on the political spectrum, Trump wiping his ass with 9/11 should piss people off. Tomorrow I am sure Trump will say some other dumb shit about something else but I hope these comments dog him for a long time. Fake news. At least he’s better than Hillary. Ha ha, he makes the lib-tards mad. Your just jelous." That’s about it. These comments of Trump’s will have no effect on him whatsoever. He SHAT ON A GOLD STAR FAMILY during the last election for God’s sake. At this point, calling Trump supporters “a basket of deplorables”, is like calling the pacific ocean “a tad damp” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6681 "2019-08-01T01:04:47Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fake news. > > At least he’s better than Hillary. > > Ha ha, he makes the lib-tards mad. > > Your just jelous." > That’s about it. These comments of Trump’s will have no effect on him whatsoever. He SHAT ON A GOLD STAR FAMILY during the last election for God’s sake. At this point, calling Trump supporters “a basket of deplorables”, is like calling the pacific ocean “a tad damp” If nothing else, all of his bullshit comments about anything and everything should give the Dem candidate plenty of ammo next fall. Just have to hope they hire a decent ad agency. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6682 "2019-08-01T01:31:44Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > If nothing else, all of his bullshit comments about anything and everything should give the Dem candidate plenty of ammo next fall. Just have to hope they hire a decent ad agency. Trump supporters have armor against that ammo. Denial and ignorance are powerful drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6683 "2019-08-01T05:51:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Fake news. > > At least he’s better than Hillary. > > Ha ha, he makes the lib-tards mad. > > Your just jelous." You left out, “Well, where was Killary on 9/11?” > [@](#): > > Euphonious Polemic;21782145]That’s about it. These comments of Trump’s will have no effect on him whatsoever. He SHAT ON A GOLD STAR FAMILY during the last election for God’s sake. At this point, calling Trump supporters “a basket of deplorables”, is like calling the pacific ocean “a tad damp” You forget that American military hero and his family “aren’t really Americans” according to Tan the Conman and his supporters. After all, they’re brown and Muslim. That’s a two-fer. > [@enipla](#): > > Trump supporters have armor against that ammo. Denial and ignorance are powerful drugs. In the [What Do Sovereign Citizens Get Out of All Their Nonsense?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876466) thread, I posted [ur=]this: > [@What Do Sovereign Citizens Get Out of All Their Nonsense?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-sovereign-citizens-get-out-of-all-their-nonsense/834851/117): > > Yep. SovCit/FOTL/etc. bs is yet another flavor of CT nonsense. And CTers are mean-spirited shitheads who only care about how wonderful, smart, and damned clever they appear to be. And they’re egotists, obviously, which is why, as you say, they believe what other CTers tell them: it’s what they want to hear and, “By God, there’s someone out there saying it, dammit, I hear them, so it must be true, damn, I’m clever!” Today’s Republican party is nothing more than a group of whacked-out nut-job conspiracy theorists. That’s why the king WONJCT is in the White House now, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6684 "2019-08-01T16:32:32Z")
As we go further down the third-world dictator rabbit hole: [President Trump Directs Navy Secretary to Rescind Medals Awarded to Eddie Gallagher Trial Prosecutors](https://time.com/5641402/trump-navy-prosecutor-eddie-gallagher-medal/) At this point, “Make America Great Again” should be a slogan to elect a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6685 "2019-08-01T17:24:44Z")
Remember back when Trump [refused to send money](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1083022011574747137) to fight fires that were threatening peoples homes in California? Well there was a good reason for that. He needed to have American fire fighters well rested and financed in case they were called To defend somewhere truly important, like, say, [Siberia](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-putin-call-offers-to-help-put-out-siberian-wildfires). ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6686 "2019-08-01T17:44:17Z")
I need to remember not to read this thread without Xanax on board. Holy shit, what a complete failure of a person he is. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6687 "2019-08-01T19:16:48Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > As we go further down the third-world dictator rabbit hole: > > [President Trump Directs Navy Secretary to Rescind Medals Awarded to Eddie Gallagher Trial Prosecutors](https://time.com/5641402/trump-navy-prosecutor-eddie-gallagher-medal/)… Agree or disagree with the prosecutions, this is simply disgraceful for a CINC. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6688 "2019-08-01T19:27:48Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Agree or disagree with the prosecutions, this is simply disgraceful for a CINC. Why is this disgraceful? You think those prosecutors deserved a Navy Achievement Medal for losing that case? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=333) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=335)