# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6689 "2019-08-01T19:39:27Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Why is this disgraceful? You think those prosecutors deserved a Navy Achievement Medal for losing that case?

That should be up to a review board(or however it’s done), The President shouldn’t be personally involved in awarding medals or taking them away based on his personal feelings.

Look at the Presidential Medal Of Freedom. What did Tiger Woods do to deserve that besides being a golfer who cheated on his wife.

Never mind, I see it now.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6690 "2019-08-01T19:48:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That should be up to a review board(or however it’s done), The President shouldn’t be personally involved in awarding medals or taking them away based on his personal feelings.

Sure, ok. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6691 "2019-08-01T20:14:15Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Sure, ok. :rolleyes:

You had it right the first time, without the rolleyes.

I’d like to hear about any precedent for a president countermanding the orders and procedures of low-level military officers.

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6692 "2019-08-01T20:42:39Z")

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First off, to be clear, I ain’t no Rockefeller. I have a modest amount of money in some mutual funds. Yesterday, the market had a bad day due to some rate cuts made by the Fed. Today, it rebounds, and the Dow, the Nasdaq, and the S & P 500 indexes showed a nice gain of around 1.20% or so on average. I checked these at a site I go to, and saw a lot of green numbers. Green is good. I come back to check not 20 minutes later, and that 1.20% gain is now an across the board -1.00% loss, red numbers everywhere. And it got worse. Only one thing could have caused this, and it had to involve Trump.

Yep, he’s fucking tweeting about more tariffs on China, again. When he tried this previously, the market tanked. Twice! It took months for it to recover. In spite of his idea of himself as some master deal-maker, some economic whiz for the ages, he is nothing more than a pathetic, feckless moron who knows shit about shit, and should be banned from getting within a mile of an internet connection ever again. I’m just trying to earn a bit here so I can afford a down payment on an apartment, and he keeps fucking it up. I know I’m lucky to be able to have money in the market, but Jesus Christ I wish the fucking tool would take his hands out of my pockets!

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6693 "2019-08-01T21:24:58Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> First off, to be clear, I ain’t no Rockefeller. I have a modest amount of money in some mutual funds. Yesterday, the market had a bad day due to some rate cuts made by the Fed. Today, it rebounds, and the Dow, the Nasdaq, and the S & P 500 indexes showed a nice gain of around 1.20% or so on average. I checked these at a site I go to, and saw a lot of green numbers. Green is good. I come back to check not 20 minutes later, and that 1.20% gain is now an across the board -1.00% loss, red numbers everywhere. And it got worse. Only one thing could have caused this, and it had to involve Trump.
> 
> Yep, he’s fucking tweeting about more tariffs on China, again. When he tried this previously, the market tanked. Twice! It took months for it to recover. In spite of his idea of himself as some master deal-maker, some economic whiz for the ages, he is nothing more than a pathetic, feckless moron who knows shit about shit, and should be banned from getting within a mile of an internet connection ever again. I’m just trying to earn a bit here so I can afford a down payment on an apartment, and he keeps fucking it up. I know I’m lucky to be able to have money in the market, but Jesus Christ I wish the fucking tool would take his hands out of my pockets!

Quit your complaining! It only dropped down to levels from January.

_adjusts bifocals_ January of 2018.

The stock market continues to look like an EKG of someone going through cardiac arrest.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6694 "2019-08-01T21:42:22Z")

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The amazing part (and I mean “amazing” to mean stupefyingly horrible) is: Trump thinks it’s perfectly OK for the president to manipulate the markets to achieve political ends. He’s pissed at Jay Powell because he wants the Fed to set their policies to make the stock market go up so it makes him look good.

But then he pulls crap like he does today, and makes the market tank. So he’s evil and stupid, simultaneously.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6695 "2019-08-01T21:52:48Z")

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Some general for Napoleon, criticized a decision because not only was it immoral, it wouldn’t work?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6696 "2019-08-01T22:07:16Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> First off, to be clear, I ain’t no Rockefeller. I have a modest amount of money in some mutual funds. Yesterday, the market had a bad day due to some rate cuts made by the Fed. Today, it rebounds, and the Dow, the Nasdaq, and the S & P 500 indexes showed a nice gain of around 1.20% or so on average. I checked these at a site I go to, and saw a lot of green numbers. Green is good. I come back to check not 20 minutes later, and that 1.20% gain is now an across the board -1.00% loss, red numbers everywhere. And it got worse. Only one thing could have caused this, and it had to involve Trump.
> 
> Yep, he’s fucking tweeting about more tariffs on China, again. When he tried this previously, the market tanked. Twice! It took months for it to recover. In spite of his idea of himself as some master deal-maker, some economic whiz for the ages, he is nothing more than a pathetic, feckless moron who knows shit about shit, and should be banned from getting within a mile of an internet connection ever again. I’m just trying to earn a bit here so I can afford a down payment on an apartment, and he keeps fucking it up. I know I’m lucky to be able to have money in the market, but Jesus Christ I wish the fucking tool would take his hands out of my pockets!

It’s been a while since he’s bragged about breaking through the 25,000 barrier. No other President has broken through 25,000 as many times as he has.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6697 "2019-08-01T23:36:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> It’s been a while since he’s bragged about breaking through the 25,000 barrier. No other President has broken through 25,000 as many times as he has.

And yet keeps ending up in the same place. It’s a big hamster wheel.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6698 "2019-08-02T00:05:00Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> And yet keeps ending up in the same place. It’s a big hamster wheel.

Hamster wheel is great. When you know when to take long and short positions based on a fucking tweet from Trump. Is it being done? Don’t know. Could it be done? Easy.

And Trump has the ethical qualities to do it. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Trump might be smart enough to do this. Or, all it would take would be for someone to praise him and suggest that he tweet another asinine idea.

“You’re doing great, really the best president EVER. To bad you can’t impose more sanctions on China. It’s really working out great!” [sub]For me. But my Lear jet is getting a bit long in the tooth, I could use a quick 50 million.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6699 "2019-08-02T00:09:04Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The amazing part (and I mean “amazing” to mean stupefyingly horrible) is: Trump thinks it’s perfectly OK for the president to manipulate the markets to achieve political ends. He’s pissed at Jay Powell because he wants the Fed to set their policies to make the stock market go up so it makes him look good…

He’s probably mad at Dow, Jones and that guy Nasdaq too.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6700 "2019-08-02T00:13:15Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Some general for Napoleon, criticized a decision because not only was it immoral, it wouldn’t work?

You may be thinking of Napoleon’s instigating the judicial murder of the [Duke of Enghien](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Antoine,_Duke_of_Enghien) — or _le duc d’Enghien_, if you want to be pedantic — a minor Bourbon noble who seems to have been tangentially involved in a plot to assassinate the First Consul and restore the monarchy (the depth of his involvement is not exactly clear).

Coming so soon after the bloodbath of the Revolution, the duke’s murder shocked European royalty and coalesced opposition to Napoleon’s rule. Prompting one of his ministers (perhaps Talleyrand, though there are other attributions) to declare _“C’est pire qu’un crime, c’est une faute”_ — “It was worse than a crime; it was a blunder.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6701 "2019-08-02T00:23:44Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Hamster wheel is great. When you know when to take long and short positions based on a fucking tweet from Trump. Is it being done? Don’t know. Could it be done? Easy.
> 
> And Trump has the ethical qualities to do it. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Trump might be smart enough to do this. Or, all it would take would be for someone to praise him and suggest that he tweet another asinine idea.
> 
> “You’re doing great, really the best president EVER. To bad you can’t impose more sanctions on China. It’s really working out great!” [sub]For me. But my Lear jet is getting a bit long in the tooth, I could use a quick 50 million.[/sub]

Well, soybean futures. If anyone knew in advance what Il Douche was going to say, it would be easy to short soybean futures if he was going to say something that would tend to hamper the export price of soybeans. All that would be required is someone who knew what he was going to say. Someone who, coincidentally, was a greedy sumbitch.

By the same token, said greedy sumbitch could cash in on soybean futures rising by knowing if Himself was going to hint at a trade deal truce with the Chinese, and then cash in again when he reversed himself. Hell, its so simple and foolproof, it almost had to happen.

Got a nickel says it did. Real good guess as to who cashed in.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6702 "2019-08-02T00:47:17Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> …Got a nickel says it did. Real good guess as to who cashed in.

Yup. This link is over a year old, but it is a hamster wheel [Boomberg. China Buys Record Amount of Russian Soy as It Shuns U.S. Growers](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-17/china-buys-record-amount-of-russian-soy-as-it-shuns-u-s-growers) And of course the odd millions here and there for Trumps other ‘Friends’

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6703 "2019-08-02T01:00:22Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Remember back when Trump [refused to send money](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1083022011574747137) to fight fires that were threatening peoples homes in California? Well there was a good reason for that. He needed to have American fire fighters well rested and financed in case they were called To defend somewhere truly important, like, say, [Siberia](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-putin-call-offers-to-help-put-out-siberian-wildfires).

To be fair, the Siberians _did_ support his election as President.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6704 "2019-08-02T01:01:50Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, soybean futures. If anyone knew in advance what Il Douche was going to say, it would be easy to short soybean futures if he was going to say something that would tend to hamper the export price of soybeans. All that would be required is someone who knew what he was going to say. Someone who, coincidentally, was a greedy sumbitch.
> 
> By the same token, said greedy sumbitch could cash in on soybean futures rising by knowing if Himself was going to hint at a trade deal truce with the Chinese, and then cash in again when he reversed himself. Hell, its so simple and foolproof, it almost had to happen.
> 
> Got a nickel says it did. Real good guess as to who cashed in.

…And everyone in a position to investigate this works for…the Executive branch.

Funny how that works.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6705 "2019-08-02T01:24:49Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> …And everyone in a position to investigate this works for…the Executive branch.
> 
> Funny how that works.

Executive branch of what country? Yes, I think that’s pretty far how things have gone.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6706 "2019-08-02T01:26:50Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Executive branch of what country? Yes, I think that’s pretty far how things have gone.

This country, of course. The United Federation Of Russian Colonies

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6707 "2019-08-02T02:37:41Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> To be fair, the Siberians _did_ support his election as President.

Hell, they probably made it happen. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6708 "2019-08-02T03:53:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This country, of course. The United Federation Of Russian Colonies

You saw the revised Presidential Seal recently, right?

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