# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6989 "2019-08-30T12:09:31Z")

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\<checks\>

Yep, fucker’s still breathing. I keep hoping he’ll stroke out while twittering madly from his golden throne, but, as in everything else, he remains a disappointment.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6990 "2019-08-30T12:16:04Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> It’s supposed to keep people from following up on that _‘Donald told people he’d pardon them if they broke any laws in the process of making his Wall happen’_ story.
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> Because if there’s good evidence that he did, even his GOP protectors might have trouble going on with the protectin’.

Nah, those GOP who didn’t want to ride his train already left. The ones remaining sold their souls to BeelzeTrump and rubber stamp everything he wants.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6991 "2019-08-30T13:27:31Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> This whole issue reminds me of a [XKCD what if](https://what-if.xkcd.com/archive/) scenario. These usually end in absolute disaster, often including the destruction of the planet.

I think Munroe mentions it in the What-If book (which I don’t have to hand). IIRC he says it’s one of his most-received questions and he basically just quotes the same NOAA website and text cited earlier in this thread.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6992 "2019-08-30T13:29:14Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> [The Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-deportation-children-medical-care-878160/)  
> \*The administration quietly eliminated a program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States for medical care  
> \*
> 
> Well, we know the Statue of Liberty poem was discarded long ago. I can just picture Stephen Miller tapping his fingertips together and saying “Excellent!”

it is even worse. the letter went to people who are in the country legally on medical grounds. the us has always brought children in for medical issues that can not be address in the child’s home country. it appears that the administration is trying to end it.

one woman was sent the letter in California, she was invited into a study when she was 7 by a hospital researching her genetic issue. she is 24 now and receives a bi weekly treatment to stay alive. she is the reason this treatment is available. her doctors are very upset. she will die within months with out the treatment.

get ready for this to get a bigger hit in the news when congress returns.

and this is the prolife party…

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6993 "2019-08-30T13:44:30Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Trump has cancelled his trip to Poland to observe the 80th anniversary of the start of WWII, so he can stay home and monitor Hurricane Dorian.
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> The first time he’s shown any interest in natural disasters – the fact that it’s bearing down on his property is purely a coincidence.
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> And of course he could “monitor” just as easily from Poland.

I don’t really care when he goes golfing (the more time he spends golfing, the less time he has for fucking shit up), but I really hope he goes this weekend!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6994 "2019-08-30T13:49:05Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> …and this is the prolife party…

That’s just a Republican bumper sticker. They don’t actually practice it. It’s like “budget deficit bad” or “freedom of religion”. Try building a mosque in a Republican stronghold and you’ll see how seriously they believe it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6995 "2019-08-30T13:49:05Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> it is even worse. the letter went to people who are in the country legally on medical grounds. the us has always brought children in for medical issues that can not be address in the child’s home country. it appears that the administration is trying to end it.
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> one woman was sent the letter in California, she was invited into a study when she was 7 by a hospital researching her genetic issue. she is 24 now and receives a bi weekly treatment to stay alive. she is the reason this treatment is available. her doctors are very upset. she will die within months with out the treatment.
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> get ready for this to get a bigger hit in the news when congress returns.
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> and this is the prolife party…

My emphasis.

No it’s the pro-\*\*fetus \*\*party. Once the baby is born, they don’t give a crap what happens to it.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6996 "2019-08-30T13:53:25Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> it is even worse. the letter went to people who are in the country legally on medical grounds. the us has always brought children in for medical issues that can not be address in the child’s home country. it appears that the administration is trying to end it.
> 
> one woman was sent the letter in California, she was invited into a study when she was 7 by a hospital researching her genetic issue. she is 24 now and receives a bi weekly treatment to stay alive. she is the reason this treatment is available. her doctors are very upset. she will die within months with out the treatment.
> 
> get ready for this to get a bigger hit in the news when congress returns.
> 
> and this is the prolife party…

It looks, at least on the surface, that the malAdministration expected this to fly under the radar: I mean, there aren’t all that many of them, and they’re mostly brown, amirite?

And when it did see the light of day, the response from Citizenship & Immigration would have been humorous if the consequences weren’t so tragic. “What, didn’t you read the letter? The program isn’t _ending_, per se, not really, no, it’s being taken over by another agency. The other agency? Umm … err … ICE! Yeah, ICE! You need to apply to them!” And the (predictable) response from ICE: “WTF? CIS hasn’t told us a damn thing, we have no such program in place and no plan to establish one.” (Apparently the two agencies didn’t even have a meeting on the subject until after the story broke about the first letters in Boston. At that meeting ICE punted the ball right back to CIS.)

I was brought up to think that clowns were supposed to be funny. After watching this crew I’m beginning to understand why some children are scared to death of them.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6997 "2019-08-30T14:14:10Z")

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Should have mentioned that the letters said nothing about the program being taken over by another agency, or about any appeal process. Just “leave by 33 days after the date of this letter or we’ll haul you before an immigration court and toss you out.” And it seems that some recipients didn’t even get the letters until halfway through the “grace” period.

Massachusetts Senator Edward Markey, at a news conference:

> [@](#):
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> We have gathered many times in the last two and a half years since Donald Trump was inaugurated — many times, these same groups have come together. We have now reached the bottom though — the most inhumane of all of Donald Trump’s policies are the ones we are here to speak about today.

(Emphasis added.)

Senator, please don’t tempt them.…

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6998 "2019-08-30T14:35:38Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Massachusetts Senator Edward Markey, at a news conference:
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> > [@](#):
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> > We have gathered many times in the last two and a half years since Donald Trump was inaugurated — many times, these same groups have come together. We have now reached the bottom though — the most inhumane of all of Donald Trump’s policies are the ones we are here to speak about today.
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> (Emphasis added.)
> 
> Senator, please don’t tempt them.…

I remember during Trump’s campaign/early presidency John Oliver on his show would say ~“Remember last week when we thought we hit rock bottom? That’s way up there now. Above the clouds.”, and he would point up to the ceiling. IIRC, he did this on a few shows.

[John Oliver / Last Week Tonight - Rock Bottom](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-OUxRQKByg)

[John Oliver Rock bottom - II](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bRuKQk1fw)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/6999 "2019-08-30T15:07:40Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> If he pours money into Florida, the contrast between helping his own property recover versus the forthright unwillingness to do so for Puerto Rico will be unavoidable.

Since when has Trump cared if he looks like he is motivated only by self interest? That’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7000 "2019-08-30T15:12:17Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1167420735415103491>

[https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-pardons-walls-victories/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/28/politics/donald-trump-2020-election-pardons-walls-victories/index.html)

Aides admitted that Trump lied about cutting a deal with China explicitly to give the stock market a boost.

> [@](#):
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> Still, Trump flashed signs of optimism this week that the trade war could be resolved, saying he’s received calls from Chinese officials saying they wanted to restart talks. Though Trump and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin insisted there had been “communication,” aides privately conceded the phone calls Trump described didn’t happen they way he said they did.  
> Instead, two officials said Trump was eager to project optimism that might boost markets, and conflated comments from China’s vice premier with direct communication from the Chinese.  
> The charged language coming out of the White House in recent weeks largely boils down to this, people say: The economy is flashing warning signs Trump didn’t expect, his trade war with China is dragging on months longer than expected yet he refuses to give in and his chief promise to supporters – that he would build a wall along the southern border – has gone unfulfilled.

Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s kind of… illegal?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7001 "2019-08-30T15:19:16Z")

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Republicans have a response to that. it’s not a yes or no, however; it’s a question. “Why do you hate America?” (Cue Lee Greenwood.)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7002 "2019-08-30T15:32:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …The administration quietly eliminated a program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States for medical care…

.

This inter-agency disconnect. Gotten to the point you can’t tell if its a plain old incompetent fuck up or a deliberate strategy to leave the victims with no authority to appeal to. Standard human decency has left the building.

There is only this: I think they will back down, they’ll make up some shit about somebody screwed up, they had no such intention, yadda-blah, yadda-blah. Hell, I’ll even pretend to believe them, just so long as this horror does not go forward.

I have known and argued with honest conservatives, no fucking way they would put up with this shit. Evangelicals, even funda-Mentals know better. “Suffer the children to come unto me” doesn’t mean hurrying them on the way to the Pearly Gated Community. Heaven can wait.

Sometimes, it seems as though my sarcasm might be seen as making light of the situation. There is no light in this situation. This is my country doing this, my government, my dime. However small my share of responsibility may be, its not small enough. Yes, I’m joking. Its either that or set the autopilot on “scream” and bail out.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7003 "2019-08-30T16:00:07Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I was brought up to think that clowns were supposed to be funny.

We need to get a new party of clowns like Bozo and Clarabelle and Ronald McDonald to replace the Republican party of clowns like Pennywise and Sideshow Bob and the Joker.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7004 "2019-08-30T17:10:01Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> .
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> This inter-agency disconnect. Gotten to the point you can’t tell if its a plain old incompetent fuck up or a deliberate strategy to leave the victims with no authority to appeal to. Standard human decency has left the building.
> 
> There is only this: I think they will back down, they’ll make up some shit about somebody screwed up, they had no such intention, yadda-blah, yadda-blah. Hell, I’ll even pretend to believe them, just so long as this horror does not go forward.
> 
> I have known and argued with honest conservatives, no fucking way they would put up with this shit. Evangelicals, even funda-Mentals know better. “Suffer the children to come unto me” doesn’t mean hurrying them on the way to the Pearly Gated Community. Heaven can wait.
> 
> Sometimes, it seems as though my sarcasm might be seen as making light of the situation. There is no light in this situation. This is my country doing this, my government, my dime. However small my share of responsibility may be, its not small enough. Yes, I’m joking. Its either that or set the autopilot on “scream” and bail out.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

Obama: “When they go low, we go high!”  
Republicans: “We can always go lower.”

There is literally no bottom with these people.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7005 "2019-08-30T17:28:41Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> …Senator, please don’t tempt them.…

Like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Give 'em a little time, and they can \*always \*come up with a crueler, stoopider policy.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7006 "2019-08-30T18:22:00Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s kind of… illegal?

Ya think? The Trump circus has been a continual criminal rampage far far worse than Bonnie & Clyde’s spree.

I don’t know why the dotard Robert Mueller didn’t come out and say just that. Did they threaten his family?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7007 "2019-08-30T19:00:03Z")

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Still think they will back down. People are weekended right now, but there will be massive public disapproval, and they will start dancing. Or maybe there won’t be. In which case, America, fucked yeah.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/7008 "2019-08-30T20:06:20Z")

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Just a brief interruption to inform everyone that according to the latest tracking predictions, Hurricane Dorian is headed _ **directly** _ for Mar-a-Lago, absolutely dead center. Some may take this as evidence that there really is a God, and while God generally pursues a policy of non-intervention in earthly affairs, it appears that even the Divine Creator may have his limits.

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