# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/61 "2017-01-21T22:51:53Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> He was performing for the people who voted for him, so yeah. He considers those who didn’t vote for him his enemies.

Good. I voted for Hitlery. And I’m OK with it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/62 "2017-01-21T22:52:57Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I hope you have health care for the next four years, because people are going react that way for his entire term…

I hope the Trumpies DON’T. I want them to get ALL they asked for.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/63 "2017-01-21T22:54:51Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’ll admit to my thorough ignorance of this issue. But, why was this at the very top of his to do list? I don’t recall FHA mortgage insurance rates being a major campaign issue for him. Yet, of all the things he could have done in the first hour of his presidency, he picked this kind of arcane issue that will seemingly do little other than suck a few more bucks out of lower and middle class homeowners. The hell?

This is why … “suck a few more bucks out of lower and middle class homeowners.”

That IS the why of it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/64 "2017-01-21T22:56:45Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> He signed an order allowing Federal agencies to roll back ACA requirements. This means that the mandated minimum coverage can be gutted. So now even if people have access to health care it can be really really crappy health care. He has essentially turned the insurance companies into death panels that decide who lives or dies depending on their bottom line and profit margin.

They accused Obama of doing this when he wasn’t. They voted for Trump and it’s really happening.

They voted for it, now they got it. GOOD.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/65 "2017-01-21T23:23:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> On his first full day in office appeared at CIA HQ, before men and women charged with providing the nation with accurate intelligence about other countries, and overstated the size of the crowd at his own Inauguration: [‘I am so behind you,’ Trump tells CIA | PBS News](http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/watch-trump-delivers-remarks-cia-headquarters/)

Right, although all the media outlets I’ve seen today correctly reported that there were no hard estimates of crowd size, they also were reporting that photo comparisons with Obama’s first inaugural clearly showed a smaller crowd for the Trump event. Trump, at his CIA appearance, said he felt like it was a million, million and half (as if that surprises anyone).

This was followed by a press statement by chief flack Sean Spicer (delayed by an hour for who knows what reason) that consisted almost entirely of Spicer berating the press for a) an incorrect tweet by a _Time_ reporter that a bust of MLK had been removed from the Oval Office; b) more blather about ‘inaccurate’ reporting of the inauguration crowd size. You know, the crowd size that everyone was saying repeatedly could not be accurately estimated.

Good Lord, the next few years are going to be tedious.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/66 "2017-01-22T00:13:56Z")

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Whining and lying about the media under reporting the size of the crowd for his inauguration. Sad.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/67 "2017-01-22T00:18:58Z")

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> [@Eddie The Horrible](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > The order states what Mr. Trump made clear during his campaign: that it is his administration’s policy to seek the “prompt repeal” of the law, which has come to be known as Obamacare. \*\*But he and Republicans on Capitol Hill have not yet devised a replacement, making such action unlikely in the immediate term. \*\*
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> What I bolded is my takeaway from this, and also (as others have stated in other threads) - I’d be surprised if the changes will be, ultimately, substantial, and instead, just a bunch of little “band-aid” alterations (_if_ he even gets around to _those_), and then he’ll stamp it “Trumpcare”.  
> Hoping I don’t turn out to be woefully wrong on that speculation.

The problem with that argument is that it presumes that they want a replacement at all. It seems far more likely to me (and in tune with their general behavior) that they’ll completely eliminate it, and then openly mock the people who are dying as “losers” and “parasites”.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/68 "2017-01-22T01:30:17Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The problem with that argument is that it presumes that they want a replacement at all. It seems far more likely to me (and in tune with their general behavior) that they’ll completely eliminate it, and then openly mock the people who are dying as “losers” and “parasites”.

Thing is that “they” compose at least two factions. There’s the Paul Ryan set, which would be all right with (underfunded) high risk pools, selling insurance across state lines, modified HSAs. By no means full coverage and the younger, healthier and richer you are the better, but not _nothing_. Then there’s the Freedom Caucus set, which believes philosophically that the federal government simply doesn’t have a role to play in providing health insurance to people.

Given that, I figure the chances of any replacement are slim.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/69 "2017-01-22T02:07:24Z")

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I’ve been hearing about executive orders and proclamations in the news, but whoever’s minding the newly-reminted [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov) website for Trump is running behind. Executive orders are supposed to be [here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders); proclamations [here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations). Both are blank as I type this. It’s not a _big_ deal, but it would be nice to be able to go there and see just what Trump has done in terms of executive orders and whatnot.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/70 "2017-01-22T02:10:53Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> He signed an order allowing Federal agencies to roll back ACA requirements. This means that the mandated minimum coverage can be gutted. So now even if people have access to health care it can be really really crappy health care. He has essentially turned the insurance companies into death panels that decide who lives or dies depending on their bottom line and profit margin.

Only to the extent that the ACA allows. Executive orders can’t override statutes.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/71 "2017-01-22T02:13:05Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’ve been hearing about executive orders and proclamations in the news, but whoever’s minding the newly-reminted [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov) website for Trump is running behind. Executive orders are supposed to be [here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders); proclamations [here](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations). Both are blank as I type this.

He wants them to be a surprise.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/72 "2017-01-22T03:27:18Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Whining and lying about the media under reporting the size of the crowd for his inauguration. Sad.

Earned a [Pants on Fire](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/21/sean-spicer/trump-had-biggest-inaugural-crowd-ever-metrics-don/), but I’m sure that’s just fake news.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/73 "2017-01-22T20:15:05Z")

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Kellyanne Conway says the Trump Administration is pleased to offer “alternative facts”: [Kellyanne Conway: WH spokesman gave 'alternative facts' on inauguration crowd](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/wh-spokesman-gave-alternative-facts-on-inauguration-crowd/21660200/)

Some other alternative facts:

The Sun rises in the west  
John Adams was our first President  
Up is down  
Down is up  
We have always been at war with Eastasia

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/74 "2017-01-22T20:31:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Kellyanne Conway says the Trump Administration is pleased to offer “alternative facts”: [Kellyanne Conway: WH spokesman gave 'alternative facts' on inauguration crowd](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/wh-spokesman-gave-alternative-facts-on-inauguration-crowd/21660200/)
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> Some other alternative facts:
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> The Sun rises in the west  
> John Adams was our first President  
> Up is down  
> Down is up  
> We have always been at war with Eastasia

War is peace.  
Freedom is slavery.  
Ignorance is strength.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/75 "2017-01-22T21:23:59Z")

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From that the strange-jawed (is she on 'roids?) Kellyanne Conway from that article:

> [@](#):
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> If we’re going to keep referring to the press secretary in those types of terms I think we’re going to have to rethink our relationship here.

Oh?  
Really?  
Sounding a bit…arch…are we?

To quote Terry Jones: “Look…Are you insinuating something?!”

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/76 "2017-01-22T21:49:52Z")

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> **[After Trump Promised To Release His Tax Returns, Aide Says He Won't Because...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-tax-returns_n_5884e7cfe4b070d8cad32f89)**
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> Seventy-four percent of Americans want Trump to release his tax returns.

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> After Promising To Release His Tax Returns, Trump Aide Says He Won’t Because ‘People Didn’t Care’
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> Seventy-four percent of Americans want Trump to release his tax returns.

Donald Jr. comment on why daddy will not does sounds a lot like he belongs to a family of crooks that will try their best to not show any transparency to all Americans.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/77 "2017-01-22T22:14:02Z")

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And here I thought I was born too late to experience 1984

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/78 "2017-01-23T01:00:30Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> War is peace.  
> Freedom is slavery.  
> Ignorance is strength.

Donald Trump will be the greatest President in American history.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/79 "2017-01-23T01:45:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Kellyanne Conway says the Trump Administration is pleased to offer “alternative facts”: [Kellyanne Conway: WH spokesman gave 'alternative facts' on inauguration crowd](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/22/wh-spokesman-gave-alternative-facts-on-inauguration-crowd/21660200/)
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> Some other alternative facts:
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> The Sun rises in the west  
> John Adams was our first President  
> Up is down  
> Down is up  
> We have always been at war with Eastasia

…and pee-facials give her glowing younger skin…!

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/80 "2017-01-23T02:06:52Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> [After Trump Promised To Release His Tax Returns, Aide Says He Won't Because ‘People Didn’t Care’ | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tax-returns_us_5884e7cfe4b070d8cad32f89)  
> Donald Jr. comment on why daddy will not does sounds a lot like he belongs to a family of crooks that will try their best to not show any transparency to all Americans.

I think Trump assumes that because he won the election, that must therefore mean that not releasing the returns isn’t a big deal to most, because if it was, he would’ve lost.

He may be right to a certain extent, in that I don’t think this is the thing that people will hold his feet to the fire over.

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