# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8712 "2020-10-01T04:29:34Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> And I have no way to release this, nowhere I know of to send this away to.

That’s where we come in!

I can’t tell you how many times I listen to the idiotic stuff my Tightie Rightie family comes up with, all the while thinking “Oh, I can’t wait to get back to the Dope and tell the Pitizens about this!”

(Pit Denizens)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8713 "2020-10-01T08:04:34Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> I offer this confessional because I’m near tears right now. I posted on FB (yes, I know, but it’s the only way I’m currently keeping up with some friends) that it was disgusting how Trump just _wouldn’t_ directly condemn white supremacy. I get _ **multiple** _ replies to this from him, with bothsidesism, whataboutism, anyone who would vote for Biden (which, if I’m against Trump’s reprehensible actions, I must be going to do) is automatically for a laundry list of boogeyman Democratic evils that will be perpetrated. My own emotions are high right now, but I feel on the verge of telling him that I don’t want to have any contact with him ever again. He won’t _ **talk** _ to me, but he’ll foam at the mouth over this.
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> So, yeah, I’m pissed off at Trump. At Republican politicians. At republican voters and supporters. I want them all to be sorry for what they’ve done and what they are, and I want them to be afraid of the retribution they deserve. By my own standards, that makes me just as bad or worse than any of them. And that pisses me off too. And I have no way to release this, nowhere I know of to send this away to.

I’m sorry **tripthicket**. I was talking about this with a girlfriend on the phone yesterday. How families and friendships are actually being fractured over devotion to/disgust over trump. How did we not know that these people we’re related to or have had a million dinners with were actually contemptuous of minorities, hated immigrants, and were capable of being wooed and won by an ignorant, low-class, lying, blow-hard bully? How can that guy who sings the psalm at the Sunday service every week spew hatred over refugees on his FB page? How can my uncle and his partner believe that Hillary Clinton ran a child sex ring? Who the fuck ARE these people?? Didn’t I know them at all?

This is more than just a Mary Matalin-James Carville _difference of political opinion_– declaring oneself to be a trump supporter is a declaration of alignment with values that I can’t possibly support. It’s an aisle too wide to reach across. For the first couple of years of his presidency it was possible to simply avoid politics as a conversation topic when socializing with trumpsters. But the cauldron is really heating up now and ignoring the flaming Republican elephant in the room can’t be done.

I’d advise not replying to those posts, **tripthicket,** and in fact, not reading his FB page at all anymore. At least not for the next few weeks/months. Rant here-- you’ll have plenty of company! Who knows where we’ll all be in the future after the shit 1) hits the fan, and then 2) settles. 😧

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8714 "2020-10-01T10:12:13Z")

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Yeah, just like eating contests, I will never understand it. I posted the story about Trump laughing at Ali Velshi being struck with a rubber bullet and my only comment was that I didn’t think this behavior was ok or amusing and most certainly not a “beautiful sight” and I can’t imagine anyone would raise their child to find that funny, and the Trump supporting ex co-worker who decided to respond posts “I Loved IT! IT was AWESOME!”

I told him I found that sad and he comes back with something about punching Biden in the face. Delighting in that violence, all the while screaming on his feed about all the “Antifa riots.”

It’s a strange phenomenon.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8715 "2020-10-01T10:29:47Z")

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Trump is now requiring that all boxes of food mailed to citizens from the government include a letter [crediting him for the idea.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-requires-food-aid-boxes-to-come-with-a-letter-from-him/ar-BB19AQ1G?ocid=msedgdhp)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8716 "2020-10-01T13:13:18Z")

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As all too often these days, that’s appalling but not surprising.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8717 "2020-10-01T13:27:30Z")

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[https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB19BinK?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare](https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB19BinK?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare)

> …Shortly after Donald and Ivana Trump’s son was born, however, the future president had an unusual concern for a parent: What if this kid grows up and embarasses me?
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> “What should we name him?” Donald asked, according to Ivana’s memoir, Raising Trump. When Ivana suggested Donald Jr., the real-estate heir responded, “What if he is a loser?”
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> That anecdote helps explain one of the more memorable exchanges in Tuesday night’s presidential debate, as well as Trump’s approach to governance. The president’s Democratic rival, Joe Biden, sought to criticize Trump’s remarks about U.S. service members being “losers,” as first reported by The Atlantic. In doing so, Biden brought up his late son, Beau, who died of a brain tumor after earning a Bronze Star in the Army National Guard.
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> “My son was in Iraq and spent a year there,” Biden said to Trump, raising his voice. “He got the Bronze Star. He got a medal. He was not a loser. He was a patriot. And the people left behind there were heroes.”
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> In an attempt to neutralize the attack, Trump changed the subject—to Biden’s other son, Hunter. “Hunter got thrown out of the military; he was thrown out, dishonorably discharged for cocaine use,” he spat out.  
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> Biden responded by reaffirming his love for his surviving son. “My son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people you know at home, had a drug problem,” Biden responded. “He’s overtaken it. He’s fixed it. He’s worked on it. And I’m proud of him. I’m proud of my son.”  
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> But when Biden speaks of loss and pain—of Beau, or of the car accident that killed his wife and daughter—he becomes deeply compelling; as Fintan O’Toole wrote, Biden’s grief is “real and rooted and fundamentally decent.” After eight months of funerals, for hundreds of thousands of American families, the kind of grief that Biden speaks of, the kind that accompanies the loss of a loved one, is no longer distant. The president stood in front of that grieving nation, and taunted a father while he was speaking of his lost son. Before the eyes of a nation struggling with an opioid epidemic, he mocked a dad for having a kid with a drug problem.
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> More than any other moment of the debate, Trump’s response to Biden’s invocation of his dead son—attempting to make him ashamed of his surviving one—threw the dispositions of the two men into sharp relief.  
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This is why you should vote for Biden over trump: because he is a decent human being. And yes, that’s enough to make Biden the preferable choice, apart from everything else that makes the two men different.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8718 "2020-10-01T13:35:31Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> As all too often these days, that’s appalling but not surprising.

I didn’t realize that I had to be surprised by what Trump has done. I thought I only had to be pissed off, as per the thread’s title.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8719 "2020-10-01T13:36:47Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> This is why you should vote for Biden over trump: because he is a decent human being.

Unfortunately, too many people consider decency to be a deficiency.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8720 "2020-10-01T13:48:48Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I didn’t realize that I had to be surprised by what Trump has done. I thought I only had to be pissed off, as per the thread’s title.

Who said you had to be surprised? You’re free to react however you wish, just as I am.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8721 "2020-10-01T14:01:18Z")

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It read like a commentary on my reaction. As if I needed to be appalled to have a legitimate reaction.

But I’m running on no sleep, so that have been me misconstruing what you meant.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8722 "2020-10-01T14:12:23Z")

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No worries. Hope you’ll be able to hit the hay soon!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8723 "2020-10-01T15:30:53Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Yeah, would be great if the wannabe dictator mob boss gets taken down like Al Capone.

I prefer the [Mussolini method](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8724 "2020-10-01T21:55:23Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> {Quoting _The Atlantic_}  
> “What should we name him?” Donald asked, according to Ivana’s memoir, Raising Trump. When Ivana suggested Donald Jr., the real-estate heir responded, “What if he is a loser?”

If so, then he would have been named very well.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8725 "2020-10-01T22:47:40Z")

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You know the Forbes editor in charge of the Wealthiest Americans list is going to be making some revisions. DumpsterFire will be rage tweeting/calling for his/her firing and complaining via his fake names; “John Barron” (or “John Baron”), “John Miller” and “David Dennison”.

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**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8726 "2020-10-01T23:31:25Z")

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Or **Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu**

Christmas. Day.

[Trial and execution of Nicolae and Elena Ceaușescu - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_execution_of_Nicolae_and_Elena_Ceau%C8%99escu#:~:text=Nicolae%20Ceau%C8%99escu%20(left)%2C%20President,trial%20on%2025%20December%201989.&text=Nevertheless%2C%20the%20charges%20did%20not%20affect%20the%20trial).

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8727 "2020-10-01T23:51:27Z")

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[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/trump-refugees.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/trump-refugees.html)

> WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said it would cut its already rock-bottom refugee admissions still deeper into record territory for the upcoming year, as President Trump returned to his anti-immigrant themes in the closing month of his re-election campaign.
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> The change in the number of refugees that Mr. Trump plans to admit is not drastic: no more than 15,000 in the fiscal year that began Thursday, [down from 18,000 in the 2020 fiscal year](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/trump-refugees.html), which was a record low. The number was set in a notice sent to Congress late Wednesday, shortly before the statutory deadline to set the new limit.
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> Both numbers are slivers of the 110,000 slots that President Barack Obama approved in 2016. The big cut in 2020 virtually sealed off a pathway for the persecuted into the country and obliterated the once-robust American reputation as a sanctuary for the oppressed.
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> But the cut signaled that Mr. Trump is willing to take his exclusionary immigration policies still further, and it was delivered to Congress as the president was [unleashing a xenophobic tirade](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/elections/trump-ilhan-omar.html) against one of the nation’s most prominent refugees, Representative Ilhan Omar, on Wednesday night at a rally in her home state, Minnesota.
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> By law, the president must tell Congress at the end of September the maximum number of refugees that will be allowed entry into the United States for the following year. Mr. Trump and the architect of his immigration policies, Stephen Miller, have used that power as part of their overall assault on the nation’s [legal immigration system.](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/24/us/politics/trump-border-legal-immigration.html)
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> But the president and his political advisers also believe that the largely successful effort to [seal off the country from asylum seekers](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-migrant-children-unaccompanied-minors.html) and refugees fleeing persecution, war and violence is a winning campaign issue, helping to bolster the president’s standing among his core supporters just before the election on Nov. 3.
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> Mr. Trump has frequently equated refugees with terrorists, despite the fact that the families are subject to extensive security screenings before coming to the United States. His campaign also warns voters that refugees will take their jobs and cost the government money, a charge that has been [refuted in many studies.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html)  
> …

[![](https://fishandbicylces.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/statue-of-liberty.jpg) ](https://fishandbicylces.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/statue-of-liberty.jpg)

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8728 "2020-10-02T00:42:07Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > This is why you should vote for Biden over trump: because he is a decent human being.
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> Unfortunately, too many people consider decency to be a deficiency.

A large number of those people would be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder according to the DSM-5, too.

> **[Psychological Assessment with the DSM-5 Alternative Model for Personality...](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5403154/)**
>
> The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fifth Edition (DSM-5) Section III Alternative Model for Personality Disorders (AMPD; ) represents an innovative system for simultaneous psychiatric classification and psychological assessment...

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8729 "2020-10-02T00:50:48Z")

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I bet that one of the GOP’s biggest fears about a Dem back in the White House is a million legal immigrants entering the country every year who, when eligible, will happily vote against the party that campaigned for keeping them out.

One more demographic factor for them to fear. This really is another Flight 93 election for the Pubbies.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8730 "2020-10-02T02:48:29Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> This really is another Flight 93 election for the Pubbies.

_Aside_: Okay, I understand what you’re saying. I’ve just never encountered that expression before. Did you coin it or did you find it in the wild?

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8731 "2020-10-02T07:07:32Z")

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I made a post recently wherein I expressed my ire with Trump. Today I have a new reason to be pissed off. The President and the First Lady, divulged by multiple sources, have both contracted Covid-19, and are currently in quarantine.

Without hesitation or equivocation, I wish both of them a complete and quick recovery. No one _deserves_ this, as much as I myself have wished for Karma to get off her ass. And _that’s_ what is pissing me off: that I’m taking the high road instead of feeling mad satisfaction.

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