# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 443
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8852 "2020-10-19T22:04:12Z")
Another GOP scam. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8853 "2020-10-19T23:02:51Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > I agree. He won’t serve time. If, hypothetically, he’s indicted and tried and convicted, Biden will want to offer a pardon. And that’s not necessarily the worst course of action. (But pardoning Donald _before_ he gets indicted and tried and convicted, WOULD be a mistake in my view. That’s another thread, maybe.) > > I could be okay with that, IFF the pardon is granted the day AFTER he begins serving his sentence. > > And then the next state where he’s committed his crime spree gets to prosecute him, etc. Works for me. Also the suggestion made elsewhere that commutation of sentence makes more sense than an outright pardon. [see below] > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > WRT him pulling an _ **Après nous, le déluge** _ act on January 19, I’m confident his lame duck cabinet would be clearheaded enough to play the 25th Amendment card. I don’t know. Trump’s family may already have made deals with enough cabinet members to ensure that they won’t go 25th. (I’m thinking of deals such as lucrative federal contracts, out of which there could be a lot of money to be made before a Biden Administration could cancel or contest them.) I don’t trust any of Trump’s cabinet. They all seem pretty fully corrupt. My guess is that we must look for protection elsewhere. > [@carlb](#): > > _ **If** _ there is to be any leniency regarding Trump and Federal crimes of which he might be convicted, I would hope for a commutation of sentence rather than an outright pardon. While I do understand the reasoning behind the decision, I still believe one of the biggest mistakes of the late 20th Century was Ford’s pardon of Nixon. It set the stage for beliefs and practices in which Presidents really do seem to be above the law, and has led, IMHO to too many actions for which Presidents suffered no real consequences ( **would Iran-Contra have happened had there been the example of a convicted Nixon in recent memory**?). > > Enough with, “moving on for the good of the country.” How about we hold powerful people to account for their corruption for the good of the country? My bolding; I do think that’s a fair point, and agree with this post. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8854 "2020-10-19T23:33:14Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Besides, he’s a cult leader and cults always win. Tell it to the People’s Temple. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8855 "2020-10-20T00:27:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Tell it to the People’s Temple. They’re all in Paradise now. (For some definition of “Paradise”.) There’s no biglier winning than that! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8856 "2020-10-20T02:15:51Z")
Trump the big flapping mouth has been the cause of a new bit of “sorry that THIS is now fucking necessary”: muting of the microphones at Presidential debates. Thanks, Trump you fucking petulant child. “WASHINGTON ([NewsNation Now](https://newsnationnow.com)) – The Commission on [Presidential Debates](https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2020-debates/) has adopted new rules to mute microphones to allow President Donald Trump and Democratic Nominee Joe Biden 2 minutes of uninterrupted time per segment. President Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden will have their microphones cut off in Thursday’s debate while their rival delivers their opening two-minute answer to each of the debate topics.” > **[Commission to mute microphones in next presidential debate](https://wgntv.com/news/politics/commission-to-mute-microphones-in-next-presidential-debate/)** > > The Commission on Presidential Debates has adopted new rules to mute microphones to allow President Donald Trump and Democratic Nominee Joe Biden 2 minutes of uninterrupted time per segment. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8857 "2020-10-20T02:18:26Z")
I cannot see Trump agreeing to participate in the debate if there’s the chance that his mic could be muted in mid-rant. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8858 "2020-10-20T02:32:53Z")
I love that this is an official statement from the President of the United States "“President Trump is committed to debating Joe Biden regardless of last minute rule changes from the biased commission in their latest attempt to provide advantage to their favored candidate. This was supposed to be the foreign policy debate, so the President still looks forward to forcing Biden to answer the number one relevant question of whether he’s been compromised by the Communist Party of China. Why did Biden allow his son Hunter to sell access to him while he was vice president, and why were there Chinese payment arrangements for Joe himself worked out by Hunter and his sketchy partners? If the media won’t ask Joe Biden these questions, the President will, and there will be no escape for Biden.” I reckon my 16 year old could write a better statement than that during the 15 minutes they are given to prepare for a debate opening statement ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8859 "2020-10-20T02:38:08Z")
So, what the orange clown is saying is that when he opens his mouth, that biases people against him. Nope, I cannot argue against that. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8860 "2020-10-20T02:40:24Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I love that this is an official statement from the President of the United States > > "“President Trump is committed to debating Joe Biden regardless of last minute rule changes from the biased commission in their latest attempt to provide advantage to their favored candidate. This was supposed to be the foreign policy debate, so the President still looks forward to forcing Biden to answer the number one relevant question of whether he’s been compromised by the Communist Party of China. Why did Biden allow his son Hunter to sell access to him while he was vice president, and why were there Chinese payment arrangements for Joe himself worked out by Hunter and his sketchy partners? If the media won’t ask Joe Biden these questions, the President will, and there will be no escape for Biden.” > > I reckon my 16 year old could write a better statement than that during the 15 minutes they are given to prepare for a debate opening statement I’m sure it sounded better in the original [North] Korean. Picture it being shouted out by this North Korea news anchor: > **[North Korea news anchor known for her bombastic announcements](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/north-korea-news-anchor-known-for-her-bombastic-announcements/2017/09/05/d45f5b02-924d-11e7-8482-8dc9a7af29f9_video.html)** > > News presenter Ri Chun Hee's bombastic announcement of Pyongyang's sixth nuclear test has put her in the limelight. She first took to the airwaves in 1971, and has become known for her trademark gusto. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8861 "2020-10-20T02:47:48Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Picture it being shouted out by this North Korea news anchor: > > > [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/north-korea-news-anchor-known-for-her-bombastic-announcements/2017/09/05/d45f5b02-924d-11e7-8482-8dc9a7af29f9_video.html) > > > > ### [North Korea news anchor known for her bombastic announcements](https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/north-korea-news-anchor-known-for-her-bombastic-announcements/2017/09/05/d45f5b02-924d-11e7-8482-8dc9a7af29f9_video.html) > > > > News presenter Ri Chun Hee’s bombastic announcement of Pyongyang’s sixth nuclear test has put her in the limelight. She first took to the airwaves in 1971, and has become known for her trademark gusto. DJT’s next press secretary if (God forbid) he gets re-elected. She won’t need to bother to learn English. Should do well, better than previous press secretaries. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8862 "2020-10-20T03:20:37Z")
I wish somebody would interview Individual 1 the way New Zealand interview Tava O’Brien does her interviews. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Zw5a2Cc5KtI/maxresdefault.jpg "Tova O'Brien interviews Jami-Lee Ross after Advance NZ's 2020 election loss | Newshub") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5a2Cc5KtI) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8863 "2020-10-21T11:53:00Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I don’t care, do U? Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8864 "2020-10-22T11:40:15Z")
The hits keep on coming. It’s like this administration just can’t help itself. > **[Trump administration considers labeling top humanitarian groups ‘anti-Semitic’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/human-rights-groups-state-department/2020/10/21/7554190c-13e8-11eb-82af-864652063d61_story.html)** > > The proposal has prompted sharp opposition from career officials who say it would be a gift to authoritarian governments that have long sought to delegitimize human rights groups. > …The Trump administration is considering labeling some of the most prominent humanitarian organizations in the world, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Oxfam, as “anti-Semitic,” according to two people familiar with the discussions. > > A declaration by the State Department could come as early as this week, the individuals said, adding that it might encourage other governments not to support the groups’ work. > … > > “It’s preposterous,” Democratic Rep. Tom Malinowski (N.J.), who previously worked as Washington director of Human Rights Watch, said in a phone call. “They also document the treatment of the Palestinians by the Palestinian Authority. They are critical of every government in the world, including the United States. Yet the State Department under every previous secretary of state has relied on these organizations as credible sources of information and treated them as partners.” > > Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Oxfam each strenuously denied any accusation of anti-Semitism. > > “Any insinuation that Oxfam supports anti-Semitism is false, baseless, and offensive,” Noah Gottschalk of Oxfam America said. “Oxfam and our Israeli and Palestinian partners have worked on the ground for decades to promote human rights and provide lifesaving support for Israeli and Palestinian communities. We stand by our long history of work protecting the lives, human rights, and futures of all Israelis and Palestinians.” > > Over the years, the groups, especially Human Rights Watch, have criticized the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, deeming them illegal under international law. Pompeo [reversed years of U.S. policy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-administration-says-israels-west-bank-settlements-do-not-violate-international-law/2019/11/18/38cdbb96-0a39-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_16) by declaring that the United States does not consider the settlements a violation of international law. > > If the State Department moves forward on the decision, it is likely to be celebrated by the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, pro-Israel Republican donors and a wide swath of Christian evangelicals, who say human rights organizations disproportionately target Israel. > … Votes, baby. Will this translate into VOTES for DJT? That’s all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8865 "2020-10-22T13:16:03Z")
Flinging poo. 3-3/4 years in office “crickets”, then? “…Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu…”. Left out the “corrupt” modifier. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8866 "2020-10-22T16:53:42Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I wish somebody would interview Individual 1 the way New Zealand interview Tava O’Brien does her interviews… _Wow_, she’s harsh… even insulting (even if he deserves it). Why would any politician agree to be interviewed by her? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8867 "2020-10-22T17:04:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > _Wow_ , she’s harsh… even insulting (even if he deserves it). Why would any politician agree to be interviewed by her? Because if you hide from tough interviewers, it makes you look weak. And often, the subjects believe themselves capable of handling the situation, even if it doesn’t quite work out that way. Consider also this famous interview between BBC Newsnight anchor Jeremy Paxman and Home Secretary Michael Howard: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IqU77I40mS0/maxresdefault.jpg "The famous Paxman-Michael Howard interview - Newsnight archives (1997)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqU77I40mS0) Also bear in mind that in parliamentary systems, having to defend one’s position against opposition questioning is part of the daily job, so getting tough questioning from others is not as offputting as it appears in America where there isn’t that constant testing of one’s ability to stand up to the same level of public scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8868 "2020-10-23T13:28:38Z")
He can still do a lot of damage between now and January. Hell, between now and Nov 4. 🤦🏽‍♀️ > **[Trump issues sweeping order for tens of thousands of career federal employees...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-order-federal-civil-service/2020/10/22/c73783f0-1481-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.html)** > > Career federal employees whose work involves making policy would no longer be hired under competitive procedures. > President Trump this week fired his biggest broadside yet against the federal bureaucracy by issuing an [executive order](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-creating-schedule-f-excepted-service/) that would remove job security from an estimated tens of thousands of civil servants and dramatically remake the government. > > The directive, issued late Wednesday, strips long-held civil service protections from employees whose work involves policymaking, allowing them to be dismissed with little cause or recourse, much like the political appointees who come and go with each administration. > > Federal scientists, attorneys, regulators, public health experts and many others in senior roles would lose rights to due process and in some cases, union representation, at agencies across the government. The White House declined to say how many jobs would be swept into a class of employees with fewer civil service rights, but civil service experts and union leaders estimated anywhere from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands in a workforce of 2.1 million. > > It would be a profound reimagining of the career workforce, but one that may end up as a statement of purpose rather than anything else. The order fast-tracks a process that gives agencies until Jan. 19 to review potentially affected jobs. That’s a day before the next presidential inauguration. An administration under Democratic nominee Joe Biden would be unlikely to allow the changes to proceed. > > Still, the order, coming less than two weeks before the election, represents a stunning effort to reshape large parts of the nonpartisan government, which is supposed to serve as a cadre of subject-matter experts for every administration. > > “President Trump is delivering on his promise to make Washington accountable again to the citizens it’s meant to serve,” Russell Vought, director of the Office of Management and Budget, said in a statement. “This much-needed reform will increase accountability in essential policymaking positions within the government.” > > **Critics said the latest effort, while not affecting a majority of the government, would upend the foundation of the career workforce by imposing political loyalty tests.** > > “I am calling this a declaration of war on the civil service,” said Richard Loeb, senior policy counsel for the American Federation of Government Employees, the largest union representing federal workers. > … My bold. Yeah, he’s big on loyalty. One-way loyalty, that is. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8869 "2020-10-23T13:34:48Z")
Wow - thanks for posting this. So bad, and consequential, but easy to miss with all the other stuff going on. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8870 "2020-10-23T13:43:03Z")
👍🏽 It is so hard to sort out the dumpster fires when they’re ALL burning. And still being set on fire. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/8871 "2020-10-23T16:10:49Z")
Not sure of the actual implications of this, but worst case scenario, would this actually permit him to fire those tens of thousands of workers right before his term ends, with another executive order? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=442) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=444)