# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9092 "2020-11-19T04:42:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Individual 1 campaign is suing Nevada Democratic Electors _as individuals_ .

This doesn’t make a lick of sense. What possible legal justification could they have for naming electors as defendants?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9093 "2020-11-19T05:04:38Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> This doesn’t make a lick of sense. What possible legal justification could they have for naming electors as defendants?

Hoping they’ll drop out?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9094 "2020-11-19T05:09:08Z")

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I have been searching for this court filing all day with no luck.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9095 "2020-11-19T13:34:32Z")

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[Here](https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/nov-17-doc-2.pdf).

The case is Law v. Whitmer in the First Judicial District Court of Nevada.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9096 "2020-11-19T13:54:36Z")

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I predict this case will go as well as all the others. DumpsterFire was 1 out of 25, and then the 1 was overturned on appeal.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9097 "2020-11-19T14:31:51Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> This doesn’t make a lick of sense.

IOW standard Republican behavior these days.

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> What possible legal justification could they have for naming electors as defendants?

“Legal justification”? 🤣

In other infuriating news:

> **[Trump pushes new environmental rollbacks on way out the door](https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-public-health-climate-birds-a947e76f1023b739121692096322da24)**
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> BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Down to its final weeks, the Trump administration is working to push through dozens of environmental rollbacks that could weaken century-old protections for migratory birds, expand Arctic drilling and hamstring future...

> BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Down to its final weeks, the Trump administration is working to push through dozens of environmental rollbacks that could weaken century-old protections for migratory birds, expand Arctic drilling and hamstring future regulation of public health threats.
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> The pending changes, which benefit oil and gas and other industries, deepen the challenges for President-elect Joe Biden, who made restoring and advancing protections for the environment, climate and public health a core piece of his campaign.
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> “We’re going to see a real scorched-earth effort here at the tail end of the administration,” said Brian Rutledge, a vice president at the National Audubon Society.
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> The proposed changes cap four years of unprecedented environmental deregulation by President Donald Trump, whose administration has worked to fundamentally change how federal agencies apply and enforce the Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act and other protections.
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> Most of the changes are expected to sail through the approval process, which includes the White House releasing the final version and publication in the Federal Register.  
> …

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9098 "2020-11-19T15:15:35Z")

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> **[How Trump is sabotaging Biden -- and America | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/what-matters-november-18/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump continues to howl on Twitter -- between rounds of golf -- spreading the lie that he won the election he lost, and promising he will be in the White House come January.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9099 "2020-11-19T15:22:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> and promising he will be in the White House come January. -

Well, he will be. For part of the month.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9100 "2020-11-19T15:23:29Z")

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As far as Donnie is concerned this is the best part of being president! No sitting behind a desk, no listening to boring people talk about boring shit, no needing to go to meetings with people you don’t like (some of them not even white!), no need to do anything except tweet-tweet-tweet and watch everyone scramble to interpret your wants and do your bidding. And all that from your seat on a golf cart! It’s what he has wanted all along. Don’t even have to pick up a Sharpie! It don’t get any better than this!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9101 "2020-11-19T16:18:13Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> [Here](https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/nov-17-doc-2.pdf).
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> The case is Law v. Whitmer in the First Judicial District Court of Nevada.

Many, many thanks!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9102 "2020-11-19T18:59:41Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I predict this case will go as well as all the others.

Agreed. Having read the case filing (thanks, Great\_Antibob) the complaint seem to be mainly about a) some sort of issue with an automated signature-matching machine; b) vague-described irregularities with electronic ballot-casting devices; and c) again vague accusations that Native Americans were being bribed to vote for Biden. As far as I can tell, the electors had nothing whatsoever to do with any of these issues, so it would seem that even if the plaintiffs have some sort of case, they’ve named the wrong defendants.

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**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9103 "2020-11-19T23:32:10Z")

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A few days ago Biden was asked about his exclusion from daily security briefings and he wasn’t concerned at all. He pointed out that it wouldn’t matter because he can’t do anything about any of it as there is only one president at a time. Also, I suspect he’s getting all the information he needs through back channels, and his experience and connections will make up for anything missed. Trump’s crew has nothing to contribute anyway.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9104 "2020-11-19T23:56:51Z")

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> [@Ziberian](#):
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> A few days ago Biden was asked about his exclusion from daily security briefings and he wasn’t concerned at all.-

From my post on this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days/925057/41):

> **[Opinion | Six things we can already tell about the Biden administration](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/19/six-things-we-can-tell-about-biden-administration-already/)**
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> You don't need to sacrifice experience to get diversity — and other lessons.

Number six:

> Finally, Biden absorbs rather than magnifies chaos and conflict.

IOW he doesn’t take the bait.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9105 "2020-11-20T16:19:47Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-trump-s-attempts-to-overturn-2020-election-are-unparalleled-in-us-history/ar-BB1bbCrx?ocid=msedgdhp](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-trump-s-attempts-to-overturn-2020-election-are-unparalleled-in-us-history/ar-BB1bbCrx?ocid=msedgdhp)

I love the Bolton quote near the end. You’ve got to hand it to the guy - he knows how to craft a soundbite.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9106 "2020-11-22T02:55:20Z")

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That fucker will receive taxpayer-funded office space, pension, health care, physical protection, and probably other goodies for the rest of his worthless life. All for spending 4 years tearing the country apart.

Please tell me that Melania and the children will not get lifetime Secret Service protection too. Please tell me not. I couldn’t find much about it. Seems that children of former presidents do not get Secret Service after age 16 so hopefully that rules out the adult grifter children, in-laws, and grandchildren.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9107 "2020-11-22T03:14:25Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> Seems that children of former presidents do not get Secret Service after age 16 so hopefully that rules out the adult grifter children, in-laws, and grandchildren.

Correct. It’s lifetime protection for former presidents and spouses.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9108 "2020-11-22T04:37:15Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Correct. It’s lifetime protection for former presidents and spouses.

So if his parasites offspring want protection after pop-pop is incarcerated, they need to hang out with Melania. Hopefully, in Slovenia.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9109 "2020-11-22T19:19:20Z")

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We all know the Trump campaign is suing individual electors in Nevada, right?

Turns out one of them is a homeless veteran. Trump and his campaign have absolutely no class, no morals, no ethics, and no sense of common decency.

> **[Nevada GOP announces another legal challenge to state election results](https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/nevada-gop-announces-another-legal-challenge-to-state-election-results-2185335/)**
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> The Nevada Republican Party held a news conference Tuesday to announce another lawsuit centered around the GOP’s continued election fraud allegations.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9110 "2020-11-22T19:30:10Z")

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Do Ivana and Marla get Secret Service protection?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9111 "2020-11-22T20:51:00Z")

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No. For more, see:

> **[Is the Secret Service responsible for keeping the president from getting drunk?](https://www.straightdope.com/21344000/is-the-secret-service-responsible-for-keeping-the-president-from-getting-drunk)**
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> A STAFF REPORT FROM THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD

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