# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9312 "2021-01-16T19:11:51Z")

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My prediction - He’s going to ask (DEMAND) that the pilot overfly the inauguration site.  
I hope the military pilot refuses an illegal order (no fly zone).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9313 "2021-01-16T19:40:14Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> My prediction - **He’s going to ask (DEMAND) that the pilot overfly the inauguration site.**  
> I hope the military pilot refuses an illegal order (no fly zone). -

“Oh, yeah? Make me!”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9314 "2021-01-16T20:39:05Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> My prediction - He’s going to ask (DEMAND) that the pilot overfly the inauguration site.  
> I hope the military pilot refuses an illegal order (no fly zone).

Okay, how about if the pilot tricks trump into putting on a parachute and then pushes him out of the airplane as they fly over while Joe taking the oath?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9315 "2021-01-16T20:48:01Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Okay, how about if the pilot tricks trump into putting on a parachute and then pushes him out of the airplane as they fly over while Joe taking the oath?

Why does this remind me of the joke about the Boy Scout, the “smartest man on Earth”, and some other dude in a plane after the pilot bailed out?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9316 "2021-01-16T20:51:54Z")

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We are good now, the smartest twice impeached loser in the world just jumped out of the helicopter wearing my backpack!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9317 "2021-01-17T06:57:03Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I’ll give him the military band if they all just play “sad trombone” as he goes by.

Trump should be playing a rusty trombone. That’s all.

But he’d probably fuck that up, too.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9318 "2021-01-17T13:53:36Z")

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Let’s hope he puts on a rucksack instead of a parachute, he is dumb enough.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9319 "2021-01-17T14:21:58Z")

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> [@casdave](#):
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> Let’s hope he puts on a rucksack instead of a parachute, he is dumb enough.-

“As God is my witness, I thought the turkey could fly!”

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**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9320 "2021-01-17T17:17:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The hits just keep comin’…  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-next-steps/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-next-steps/index.html)

There is a typo in this article that just has me chuckling because it is appropriate for them:

> When Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner shared their decision to pick up and move their family to Washington from New York four years ago, multiple sources who know the couple said the idea was the White House years would allow easy **entree** to their ambitious next steps: Kushner would become a powerful player in global politics and Trump would become a shoo-in to a higher office of her own.

What, were they thinking they would get free meals because they were in the white house? Maybe unlimited bread at their favorite Italian restaurant? 🤨 😀

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9321 "2021-01-17T17:45:19Z")

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en·trée  
/ˈänˌtrā,ˌänˈtrā/

noun

1. the main course of a meal.  
**2. the right to enter or join a particular sphere or group.**  
“an actress with an entrée into the intellectual society of Berlin”

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**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9322 "2021-01-17T18:00:14Z")

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While I agree there is a second meaning to the word, I think that if that was the intended use they should have written it, like in the usage example, as: allow **an** easy entree to their ambitious next steps. The meaning is of course obvious in the article, which is the point of communication, but I would have preferred that a more common use of the phrase would have been used: would allow easy **entry** to their their ambitious next steps.

Regardless, the use of the word entree made me laugh because of the image it conjures up of them demanding something in a restaurants using: “Do you know who I am?”, and the response being: “yes, and that is why we are denying you preferential service”.

`//i\\`

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9323 "2021-01-17T18:17:24Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1, as he scurries out of town prior to the Inauguration, wants a military sendoff with a military flyover, a red carpet, and a 21 gun salute.

If it is followed by Taps, I will not oppose it.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pTBaTGGcKCM/hqdefault.jpg "SpongeBob Music: Taps [version 2]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTBaTGGcKCM)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9324 "2021-01-18T04:05:27Z")

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> [@icon](#):
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> The meaning is of course obvious in the article, which is the point of communication

The meaning of entrée is obvious enough (to me anyway): The author is saying that Washington is fed up with them.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9325 "2021-01-18T17:06:22Z")

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Appalling but not surprising, just like so much of the rest of his Presidency:

> **[Trump to issue around 100 pardons and commutations Tuesday, sources say | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump is preparing to issue around 100 pardons and commutations on his final full day in office Tuesday, according to three people familiar with the matter, a major batch of clemency actions that includes white collar criminals,...

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9326 "2021-01-18T18:48:32Z")

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On the topic of pardons, I am given to understand that pardon power is pretty much absolute.

There has been precedent for pardons even before anyone was charged, for a broad range of things they might have maybe done (Ford pardoning Nixon), as well as precedent for pardoning a huge bunch of folks for a specific crime (Carter pardoning draft dodgers)

However… What we might see tomorrow is blanket pardons for a bunch of people who have not been charged yet for a bunch of unspecified crimes on January 6. Specifically, crimes that were committed at the behest of a sitting president to overthrow an election by the violent armed attack of the Legislative Branch of government who were following a procedure of peaceful government transition.

So… assuming this is done, and is all legal and all…

What is to prevent a future president from ordering all security out of the Capitol building during a Legislative Branch sitting, and then sending in a private mercenary heavily armed group to take the building and occupants? The mercenary army could capture and immobilize any legislators who were in the opposition party, murder any who resisted, and remove all paper and electronic materials from their offices. Then leave.

Then in our hypothetical, the sitting president who is now in possession of every single piece of information from his opposition, promptly pardons every single mercenary who participated in this raid.

It seems that this scenario would now be “legal”. And the sitting president could then release “information” to the press that shows how the opposition were a criminal network of human organ traffickers, or whatever else his PR team can dream up.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9327 "2021-01-18T18:53:17Z")

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> It seems that this scenario would now be “legal”. And the sitting president could then release “information” to the press that shows how the opposition were a criminal network of human organ traffickers, or whatever else his PR team can dream up.

Yeah, I have similar concerns.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9328 "2021-01-18T18:58:26Z")

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Likewise. The next tyrant wannabe might not be quite so much of a lazy, short-attention-span bungler.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9329 "2021-01-19T00:27:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> What is to prevent a future president from ordering all security out of the Capitol building during a Legislative Branch sitting, and then sending in a private mercenary heavily armed group to take the building and occupants?

I’m pretty sure that the Capital Police are entirely separate from the DC police and under control of the legislative branch. Not that a would-be tyrant couldn’t in theory call up enough troops to overrun them, but that is an entirely separate thing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9330 "2021-01-19T01:13:52Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that the Capital Police are entirely separate from the DC police and under control of the legislative branch.

They are, yes, although there is a oversight board between them and the legislative branch.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9331 "2021-01-19T03:36:40Z")

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[Here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police) is the Wiki article on the United States Capitol Police. Turns out that it’s governed by a 3-member board appointed by the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the President.

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