# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 477
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9532 "2021-04-26T11:48:50Z")
Am I understanding correctly that this Arizona “audit” is focused on signature matching? Because if so, that seems to open yet another door for GOP ratfuckery. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9533 "2021-04-26T12:45:10Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > They only have until 5/15 to complete recounting the 46 pallets of boxed ballets. Or what? Seriously. By what authority \<_cough, cough_\> are they even doing this? And presumably that authority could give them an extension until 2024, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9534 "2021-04-26T13:27:21Z")
> **[Trump supporters could be incited to future violence by his continued...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/24/politics/trump-capitol-rioters-future-threat/index.html)** > > Former President Donald Trump's continued promotion of the "big lie" about the 2020 election could still incite his followers to violence, the Justice Department and judges noted repeatedly this week, as courts weigh the future dangerousness of US... ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9535 "2021-04-26T19:18:08Z")
Well, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9536 "2021-04-26T19:58:39Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Am I understanding correctly that this Arizona “audit” is focused on signature matching? Because if so, that seems to open yet another door for GOP ratfuckery. In real life, here in the fact-based world, mail-in viting the signature cards are not stored with the bllots. because ballots are secret. Once the signatures are verified on sealed ballots, the ballots are removed and counted, and the envelopes are not saved! Signing for in-person voting is equally “lost”. The signature to vote isn’t kept with the ballot! So verifying signatures, even if they verified the umpty-million of voters’ in Maricopa country, does nothing to affect the outcome! Any signature that these “auditors” find to be invalid could have been for trump as well as Biden. There’s no way to tie them together. Now of course, if this is the first step for Gov Douchy to declare the entire election invalid and just have the GOP arbitrarily pick a winner (gee, wonder who that would be?), well, if they are going to rip up the constitution and abandon democrary, that’s what the courts are for. Or, how civil wars start. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9537 "2021-04-26T20:04:34Z")
I kinda doubt Gov. Ducey will be on board with that. > **[Trump revives feud with Arizona’s Ducey over 2020 vote count](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/550090-trump-revives-feud-with-ducey-over-arizona-vote-count/)** > > Former President Trump is reviving his feud with Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey (R) over an election audit in the state being pushed by Republican state legislators.In statements Friday and Saturday, Trum… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9538 "2021-04-26T23:17:25Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > In real life, here in the fact-based world, mail-in viting the signature cards are not stored with the bllots. because ballots are secret. Once the signatures are verified on sealed ballots, the ballots are removed and counted, and the envelopes are not saved! > > Signing for in-person voting is equally “lost”. The signature to vote isn’t kept with the ballot! > > So verifying signatures, even if they verified the umpty-million of voters’ in Maricopa country, does nothing to affect the outcome! Any signature that these **“auditors”** find to be invalid could have been for trump as well as Biden. There’s no way to tie them together. My emphasis in the quote—I believe it’s important to do as you have done here, and refrain from giving these anti-democracy activists the dignity of the words “audit” and “auditors.” Actual audits must follow generally-accepted standards, which do NOT include the absolute secrecy these clowns are currently enjoying. What’s happening in Arizona is _not_ an audit. It’s a partisan-political operation. \ (And your points about the absurdity of throwing out ballots based on a supposed ‘mismatch’ of signatures that CANNOT be connected with those ballots, are excellent.) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9539 "2021-04-26T23:27:04Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > What’s happening in Arizona is _not_ an audit. It’s a partisan-political operation. You are 100% correct. And they are only “auditing” trump votes.If these dumb-ass trumpicans think there is so much fraud in this election, then maybe we should be able to get rid of Biggs, Gosar, and every other nutjob elected in AZ. Why are their elections not being questioned? \* \*yes yes I know why. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9540 "2021-04-26T23:45:27Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > … And they are only “auditing” trump votes.If these dumb-ass trumpicans think there is so much fraud in this election, then maybe we should be able to get rid of Biggs, Gosar, and every other nutjob elected in AZ. Why are their elections not being questioned? The degree to which this attempted fraud is simply out in the open is staggering. To me this shows that Chuck Schumer and the other Senate Democrats need to stop worrying about being punished by the voters and just get rid of the filibuster, because: A: there is NO doubt that McConnell will get rid of it immediately (with much self-righteous posturing) the moment the GOP regains the Senate, so the worrying about Voter Perception (of behaving Too Aggressively) is pointless and ridiculous, and B: Without being able to get legislation through with 51 votes (via nuking the filibuster) there is NO way that the 2022 and 2024 elections will be fair. Unless the Senate steps in with laws to prevent it, Arizona and other state legislatures will simply abandon democracy. They will ignore the votes cast in their states and choose whoever they prefer to be their Senators, Representatives, etc. Arizona’s current actions demonstrate this clearly. Only the US Senate, by passing HR1/S1, can prevent GOP legislatures from ending democracy in America. And only getting rid of the filibuster can make that happen. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/4/text](https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/4/text) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9541 "2021-04-27T00:34:47Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > And they are only “auditing” trump votes.If these dumb-ass trumpicans think there is so much fraud in this election, then maybe we should be able to get rid of Biggs, Gosar, and every other nutjob elected in AZ. Why are their elections not being questioned? \* I’ve posted before this comment: “It’s Schrodinger’s election!” That means that the selection they agree with on the ballit is the part that’s valid, but the selection they don’t agree with is not valid. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9542 "2021-04-27T16:19:22Z")
> **[Donald Trump made \*7\* times more misleading statements than Joe Biden in his...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-fact-checker/index.html)** > > With Donald Trump's presidency in the rear-view mirror, there's a natural human tendency to sort of forget about what he did to the nation's highest office. Let's look to the future -- and all that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9543 "2021-04-27T16:21:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > CNN: > With Donald Trump’s presidency in the rear-view mirror, there’s a natural human tendency to sort of forget about what he did to the nation’s highest office. Not at The Dope there isn’t! ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9544 "2021-04-27T17:48:21Z")
If a moron tweets in a forest and no one reads it, does the tweet really exist? I dunno, but it’s so lovely that bullshit like this is going unnoticed. I don’t really know where to start with this. Did South Korea insult his hairdo or something? [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-4.23.2021-2](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-4.23.2021-2) ETA, it was probably inspired by SK President Moon saying that Trump didn’t successfully negotiate anything with North Korea and that he wanted to meet with Biden. I guess Trump thinks all the world leaders that were his “friends” should refuse to talk to Biden. > **[After Trump ‘Failed,’ South Korean Leader Hopes Biden Can Salvage Nuclear...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/world/asia/biden-north-korea-nuclear-deal-president-moon.html)** > > In an interview with The New York Times, President Moon Jae-in of South Korea urged the United States to sit down with North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9545 "2021-04-28T13:11:43Z")
> **['Not an easy transition': Inside Trump's unconventional first months out of...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/politics/trump-post-presidency/index.html)** > > Most Mondays and Tuesdays, former President Donald Trump skips golf to confer with aides about the week ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9546 "2021-04-28T13:33:14Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > By continuing to exist and attract any sort of semi-serious attention. Unfortunately, after he ceases to exist, he’ll still attract attention, and the effects of his disasterous public persona will live on for years longer than he will. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9547 "2021-04-28T13:47:51Z")
Yes, he will be this conservatives’ generation version of Reagan. What has to happen is for him to be the visible face of an even bigger Republican defeat in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9548 "2021-04-28T14:11:42Z")
A consummation devoutly to be wished, but they’ll _still_ find a way to exonerate him for it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9549 "2021-04-28T15:41:21Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > CNN: > Most Mondays and Tuesdays, former President Donald Trump skips golf to confer with aides about the week ahead. Pretty funny that he’s playing less golf now than when he was president. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9550 "2021-04-28T15:43:29Z")
So you can see why he wants his old job back! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9551 "2021-04-28T15:46:47Z")
I can relate. Back when I worked full time, sometimes a vacation would be so exhausting that I wanted to get back to work so I could rest. 😁 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=476) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=478)