# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9593 "2021-05-16T21:21:43Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I would never use a Sharpie. Sharpie ink bleeds, leaving an amorphous blur which also shows through on the back side. What kind of paper are these ballots printed on, that you could draw on cleanly with a Sharpie?

Bamboo paper.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9594 "2021-05-16T21:26:25Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> Bamboo paper.

Executive Orders.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9595 "2021-05-16T21:31:28Z")

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Weather map paper.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9596 "2021-05-16T21:34:35Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Sharpie ink bleeds, leaving an amorphous blur which also shows through on the back side.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

Recount! Recount!

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9597 "2021-05-16T23:01:08Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What kind of paper are these ballots printed on, that you could draw on cleanly with a Sharpie?

Very thick paper that, even if it did bleed through, had the two sides of the ballot cleverly arranged so that the bubbles on one side did not interfere with the bubbles on the other. This was all covered back in November and it was the _Republican_ registrar of voters who recommended using Sharpies to mark the ballot.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9598 "2021-05-17T02:22:12Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> the heathen Chinese

ISWYDT, Mr. Harte.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9599 "2021-05-17T03:14:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Senegoid](#):
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> > Sharpie ink bleeds, leaving an amorphous blur which also shows through on the back side.
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> That’s a feature, not a bug.
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> Recount! Recount!

And if a recount of the primary marks doesn’t give the desired result, count every amorphous blur as a vote for Trump. Problem solved!

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9600 "2021-05-17T04:00:54Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> . . . had the two sides of the ballot cleverly arranged so that the bubbles on one side did not interfere with the bubbles on the other.

. . . had the two sides of the ballot cleverly arranged so that every bubble for a Democrat on one side had a Republican bubble on the other side. ?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9601 "2021-05-17T14:49:13Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> count every amorphous blur as a vote for Trump.

Couldn’t be more appropriate!

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9602 "2021-05-17T14:59:32Z")

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Fucker's still breathing and spreading lies. Pity, that.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9603 "2021-05-17T16:45:22Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 yesterday claimed that the Maricopa County database had been deleted illegally. The county recorder, who is a Republican elected in that “fraudulent” election, called Individual 1’s claims unhinged…

Who said all Republicans have a problem with reality?

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9604 "2021-05-17T17:13:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Who said all Republicans have a problem with reality?

Not all of them, thankfully. Just far too many.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9605 "2021-05-17T17:35:32Z")

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Don’t worry, the heretics will be quickly censured and banished and then we’ll be back to all.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9606 "2021-05-17T17:40:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> **Northern\_Piper** reminded me that this thread will be shut down when it hits 10,000 posts, which should be pretty soon, so I’ve started a new thread here: [How has the disgraced former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/942178)

A reminder - thanks.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9607 "2021-05-17T18:11:02Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> . . . had the two sides of the ballot cleverly arranged so that every bubble for a Democrat on one side had a Republican bubble on the other side. ?

No, where have you seen a ballot arranged that way? It takes straight-party voting to a whole new level.

The office being voted for had the candidates for that office listed whichever party they were in, starting with the President, then Senator, then whichever Representative district you are in, then various state, county, and city offices along with some propositions. This took up three columns on the front side of the ballot. The back side had the last couple propositions, really minor offices like Justice of the Peace and Constable, and whether to retain any judges whose terms had come up for review.

If you look at [this article](https://arizonadailyindependent.com/maricopa-county-certifies-election-results-denial-of-access-for-expert-ends-sharpiegate-lawsuit/), you will see a photo of a ballot _with bleed through_ and you will see the bleed through spots from the reverse side are not where the bubbles on this side are and thus, will not cause a miscount. If they had been I’m sure the registrar would have noticed an abnormally high number of overvotes, halted the machine count, and initiated a hand count.

Whoever marked the ballot in the photo had a pretty heavy hand because I examined my ballot before putting it into the envelope and found no bleed through. It might have been because I used a micro-tip Sharpie rather than a standard one.  
[Micro-tip Sharpie on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Permanent-Markers-Ultra-5-Count/dp/B07TZLDP7Q/ref=pd_lpo_229_img_1/143-1427909-5596541?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07TZLDP7Q&pd_rd_r=c4648794-f2c1-46f4-98f0-b39143f6ae45&pd_rd_w=SrQtj&pd_rd_wg=g80QD&pf_rd_p=a0d6e967-6561-454c-84f8-2ce2c92b79a6&pf_rd_r=3KCY36P0519ECTR1QCT3&psc=1&refRID=3KCY36P0519ECTR1QCT3)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9608 "2021-05-18T01:19:28Z")

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The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has had enough of the so-called audit.

Here’s the letter they wrote to the President of the State Senate.

[https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann---FINAL#page=8](https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann---FINAL#page=8)

This pretty well sums it up:

> Finally, we express our united view that your “audit”, no matter what your  
> intentions were in the beginning, has become a spectacle that is harming all  
> of us. Our state has become a laughingstock. Worse, this “audit” is  
> encouraging our citizens to distrust elections, which weakens our democratic  
> republic.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9609 "2021-05-18T01:43:57Z")

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I don’t know about you all, but I’m laughing my ass off. 😆

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9610 "2021-05-18T01:49:20Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Be sure to check for bamboo.

That’s right, you don’t want to get bamboozled.

Now the halfwit’s spreading the lie that Maricopa County deleted the inspection records. No, the incompetent boobs [didn’t know where to look.](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maricopa-county-elections-database/)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9611 "2021-05-18T03:26:08Z")

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I liked this part best:

> [@](#):
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> You are photographing ballots contrary to the laws that the Senate helped enact, and you are sending those images to unidentified places and people. You have repeatedly lost control of your twitter account, which has tweeted things that appear to be the rantings of a petulant child—not the serious statements of a serious audit.
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> None of this is inspiring confidence.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9612 "2021-05-18T08:09:00Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has had enough of the so-called audit.
> 
> Here’s the letter they wrote to the President of the State Senate.
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> [https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann—FINAL#page=8](https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann---FINAL#page=8)

That is a beautiful thing.

> [@](#):
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> Regardless, we cannot give you a password that we do not possess any more than we can give you the formula for Coca Cola. We do not have it; we have no legal right to acquire it; and so, we cannot give it to you.

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