# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 481
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9613 "2021-05-18T11:18:06Z")
I just have to post this bit too: > [@](#): > > The County’s routers are also a blueprint. They provide a map showing exactly where in the County’s computer network all the County’s most critical data is hidden—data related to the most sensitive law enforcement programs—including federal law enforcement programs, and data related to Maricopa County’s citizens’ protected health information, financial information, and social security numbers. If a criminal organization or some other bad actor gained access to that blueprint, it could do irreparable damage to the County, the State, and even our Country. That blueprint could allow someone who successfully hacked into our network to quickly copy all of this sensitive information—perhaps before we even knew that our security had been breached – because they would know exactly where to look. This could lead to any number of harms to our citizenry, including disruption to critical services or even identity theft. And, it could lead to the “outing” of undercover law enforcement personnel and the unraveling of critical law enforcement programs. Having this blueprint would also aid a bad actor trying to infect our network with ransomware that might lock us out of our network, further putting our citizens’ protected information, and perhaps even their physical safety, at risk. > > You have suggested, however, that we should let your contractors look at the routers anyway. Yet Mr. Bennett publicly acknowledged that your contractors locked him out of your “audit’s” official twitter account, and also acknowledged that he was having difficulty regaining access. There is more we could say to explain why we do not believe it prudent to blindly trust your contractors, but we believe that example is enough. Translation: “You want access to systems that, if compromised, could literally result in death and destruction, but you can’t even manage your own Twitter account properly. Fuck off.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9614 "2021-05-18T12:08:43Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Worse, this “audit” is > > encouraging our citizens to distrust elections, which weakens our democratic > > republic. That’s actually the whole point of this exercise, to make people distrust elections and weaken democracy. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9615 "2021-05-18T13:39:23Z")
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature, from the MAGA crowd’s POV. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9616 "2021-05-19T02:37:42Z")
Last week, Individual 1 bragged that a new lawsuit would prove that the election was stolen. Today, a judge threw the lawsuit out. > **[Judge Tosses Michigan Election Lawsuit That Trump Was Still Clinging To](https://www.thedailybeast.com/michigan-judge-tosses-antrim-county-election-audit-lawsuit)** > > As recent as last week, Donald Trump was pinning his hopes on a suit in Michigan that was seeking to force officials to audit the 2020 result. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9617 "2021-05-19T04:08:04Z")
The Daily Beast buried the lead. They put that one as number 1, and this one as number 2: > **[New York AG: Investigation Into Trump Organization Now ‘Criminal’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-attorney-general-letitia-james-investigation-into-trump-organization-now-criminal)** > > “We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA,” the office said in a statement. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9618 "2021-05-19T16:52:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Last week, Individual 1 bragged that a new lawsuit would prove that the election was stolen. Today, a judge threw the lawsuit out. Matthew DePerno is the attorney in this case: > DePerno responded to the ruling on Twitter, saying, “Apparently the SOS (secretary of state) can conduct the audit in any way she determines even if she is actively part of the fraud.” DePerno needs to be hauled up by a disciplinary committee at the least, and probably have his ass sued off by the Secretary of State. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9619 "2021-05-19T20:15:50Z")
Yes. Too many lawyers saying and doing outrageously unprofessional things since Election Day; there should and must be disciplinary consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9620 "2021-05-20T00:08:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yes. Too many lawyers saying and doing outrageously unprofessional things since Election Day; there should and must be disciplinary consequences. . Agreed, but sadly, one of the solid pieces of knowledge many of us have acquired since 2016 is how toothless (and/or timid) state bar associations seem to be. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9621 "2021-05-21T14:11:29Z")
Why do we keep allowing situations where those committing infractions have a say in whether or not infractions even occurred? It seems to be a huge part of American culture, from the police to Congress to Bar associations, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9622 "2021-05-21T14:52:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Why do we keep allowing situations where those committing infractions have a say in whether or not infractions even occurred? I was absolutely thinking this when reading how the Republican politicians do not want an investigation about how the leader of their own party instigated a violent assault on the Capitol building while votes were being counted. They voted against an investigation of their own party. It’s like giving a suspected bank robber a vote on whether or not a search warrant should be issued for their house and car; it’s beyond idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9623 "2021-05-21T15:15:39Z")
There was news this week that investigations of the Trump Organization have changed from purely civil matters to criminal investigations. One of the reports that I saw on the subject said that the organization was informed of this back in April, but it just became public this week. Is that normal when investigating crimes; do we tell a suspected murderer, rapist, or mugger that they are being investigated? I suppose it could be a way of putting them on notice to not destroy any documents or evidence, but it does smack of a double standard; rich criminals getting a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9624 "2021-05-21T15:30:22Z")
Apparently it’s not that uncommon in white collar crime cases, federal law enforcement agencies frequently send “target letters” to people they are investigating, informing them that they are the target of a criminal investigation. > **[Target Letters From Federal Law Enforcement](https://www.burnhamgorokhov.com/criminal-defense-resources/federal-criminal-process/target-letters-from-federal-law-enforcement)** > > Have you or someone you know received a target letter from federal law enforcement? If so, some of the information in this publication may be helpful to you. It Apparently sending a target letter is a strategic decision on the part of prosecutors, it’s not required. But it has some advantages for the prosecution. It puts the target on notice that destroying documents and evidence would be obstruction of justice. There is the risk that the letter might _cause_ the target to destroy documents, but if they already suspect they are an investigatory target they might try to destroy them anyway, this way they can’t play dumb. It can also be used as the opening salvo in a cooperation agreement if there is another, bigger and better target in the sights of the prosecution. It certainly isn’t unusual though, and I don’t see it as the prosecution trying to help Trump in any way. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9625 "2021-05-24T06:49:50Z")
I blame Trump: > **[Accusations of treason as Samoan MPs hold swearing-in ceremony outside...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/24/political-crisis-in-samoa-as-prime-minister-elect-locked-out-of-parliament-to-prevent-swearing-in)** > > Ad hoc ceremony occurred after government refused to convene parliament to allow a transition of power after tense election ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9626 "2021-06-09T20:10:13Z")
This just in: > **[Trump administration pursued CNN reporter's records in months-long secret...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/trump-pursuit-cnn-reporter-records-secret-court-battle/index.html)** > > The Trump administration battled with CNN for half a year to obtain the email records of a reporter and insisted it all take place under an extraordinary order of secrecy, CNN's lead attorney revealed on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9627 "2021-06-09T23:53:28Z")
Cue Trumplican cries of ‘what’s wrong with that, it’s national security!!!1!!!’ and probably a stray ‘both sides do it!!!’ or two. Last night, Maddow’s main story was about how Merrick Garland’s DOJ is, alarmingly, continuing to pursue Trump/Barr DOJ projects such as…seizing the records of reporters. I have a feeling her story hit home, as in today’s testimony before a Senate subcommittee, Garland said his DOJ would not move forward with the Orwellian project of stifling journalism: > [@](#): > > … Garland reiterated Wednesday that the Justice Department will no longer seize journalists’ records in leak investigations, when asked about the Trump administration’s push to obtain email records of journalists from multiple outlets, including CNN. > “The President has made clear his view about the First Amendment and coincide with mine … vital to the functioning of our democracy. And that extends to the need for journalists to be able to go about their work,” he said. “We will not use compulsory process in leak investigations to require reporters to provide information about their sources, when they’re doing their job as reporters. That is going to be our policy.” > Garland told lawmakers that he is working on a full memo that codifies the policy on media records seizures that the department previously announced. … [https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/ag-garland-trump-rule-of-law/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/politics/ag-garland-trump-rule-of-law/index.html) Maddow’s story is well worth a look: > **[Transcript: The Rachel Maddow Show, 6/8/21](https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-6-8-21-n1270099)** > > Guests: Pramila Jayapal ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9628 "2021-06-09T23:55:12Z")
Nigeria’s government blocked access to Twitter because Twitter removed a comment by its president, and Trump said he wished he’d done that while he was in office. The man wants to be a dictator; I wonder why the hell the GOP can’t see that, I really do. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9629 "2021-06-10T00:01:33Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > The man wants to be a dictator; I wonder why the hell the GOP can’t see that, I really do. - Oh, they can see it. They can see it just fine. And they _like_ it! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9630 "2021-06-10T00:32:14Z")
I get it. The DOJ doesn’t want to get into the situation of reversing itself after elections. That implies decisions are being made for political reasons instead of careful consideration of the law. But that chicken was already been well and truly fucked. Can’t unfuck it at this point, though a lot of people are trying their damned best to pretend the last 4 years simply didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9631 "2021-06-10T00:42:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And they _like_ it! So long as it’s a _Republican_ dictator. Those guys with the _Better Russian than Democrat_ shirts were not kidding at all. And they wouldn’t mind if it turned into a hereditary position. The rank and file wouldn’t have to think very hard about what name to chant and the upper echelons would know there’d be plenty of scraps to feed upon, kind of like remora. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2021, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/9632 "2021-06-10T03:00:23Z")
They do see it. The thing is they believe he will dictate what they want him to dictate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=480) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640.md?page=482)