# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/981 "2017-05-17T17:31:01Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> You can think whatever point you want, but classified information doesn’t become declassified because it is given to people without clearance.

I am not thinking whatever I want, I was actually asking, as you seem to know better than all the sources that say that it was declassified when the president made it public. I honestly don’t know exactly how all that works.

I am not saying that it becomes declassified because it is given to people without clearance, I am saying that my understanding, based on what people have said in the media and in these threads, mainly defending trump, is that when the president give the information to those without clearance, that is when it is declassified.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/982 "2017-05-17T17:36:33Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I am not saying that it becomes declassified because it is given to people without clearance, I am saying that my understanding, based on what people have said in the media and in these threads, mainly defending trump, is that when the president give the information to those without clearance, that is when it is declassified.

Fair enough, guess I was a little too snarky when I didn’t have to be. Any threads on this board where people say the information is “declassified” I try to respond with, to paraphrase - “No it isn’t”

Anyone in the media who says the information is “declassified” is incorrect. Classified information remains classified until it is officially declassified. Reporting it in the paper doesn’t declassify it, telling a foreign minister doesn’t declassify it, putting it on WikiLeaks doesn’t declassify it.

I personally don’t go to WikiLeaks for that very reason. Classified documents there can still be classified and I, having a clearance, still wouldn’t be able to share them or talk about them in an unauthorized location.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/983 "2017-05-17T17:51:57Z")

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…PAUSE!?

all caps

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/984 "2017-05-17T18:33:02Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> He can declassify any intel from US sources, but the stuff handed to the Russians was courtesy of the Isrealis and thus, off limits.
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> Even if it _was_ legal, the effect will be dry up that source (to say nothing of burning the agent). Sad.

THAT’S the point. Not so much whether the President has the right to say any damn thing he wants, but that in revealing this, he was blowing the cover of an ally of the United States. All so he could show off and further his bromance with Putin. He didn’t even do it for a comprehensible criminal reason–at least Nixon had genuine paranoia to excuse his ordering a criminal act. Trump isn’t smart enough to cause damage intentionally.

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Whomever is saying that is incorrect. Releasing classified information does not make it unclassified.

It’s **WHO** ever. Subject of the sentence.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/985 "2017-05-17T18:40:44Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It’s **WHO** ever. Subject of the sentence.

:smack: Knew that!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/986 "2017-05-17T19:08:51Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> :smack: Knew that!

I new ya did. 😉

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/987 "2017-05-17T19:11:07Z")

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\*knew

🙂

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/988 "2017-05-17T19:21:37Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> \*knew

I believe proper spelling is without an archeopteryx.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/989 "2017-05-17T20:03:24Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> \*knew
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> 🙂

R-i-i-i-te.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/990 "2017-05-20T15:35:53Z")

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A Trump Tweet from 2015:

> [@](#):
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> Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies

[The President and First Lady arrive in Saudi Arabia in 2017.](https://ssl.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170520031338-trump-in-saudi-arabia-2-super-169.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/991 "2017-05-20T15:49:30Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A Trump Tweet from 2015:
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> [The President and First Lady arrive in Saudi Arabia in 2017.](https://ssl.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170520031338-trump-in-saudi-arabia-2-super-169.jpg)

It’s only insulting when someone named _Obama_ does it, silly. Everything done by anyone named Obama is wrong, and everything done by anyone named Trump is right. It’s a very simple rule.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/992 "2017-05-20T15:53:55Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A Trump Tweet from 2015:
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> > [@](#):
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> > Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
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> [The President and First Lady arrive in Saudi Arabia in 2017.](https://ssl.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170520031338-trump-in-saudi-arabia-2-super-169.jpg)

Since the ostensible purpose of haircovering is to avoid attacks by incited and uncontrollable males, and neither lady was attacked (so far), I guess the religious prescription is false, no?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/993 "2017-05-20T15:55:12Z")

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> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#):
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> It’s only insulting when someone named _Obama_ does it, silly. Everything done by anyone named Obama is wrong, and everything done by anyone named Trump is right. It’s a very simple rule.

I haven’t seen any outrage over the current President saluting, either.

What pissed me off today was after signing the arms deal with the Saudis, he _didn’t_ display his signature.  
That would have been _priceless._

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/994 "2017-05-20T18:04:08Z")

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NM

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/995 "2017-05-20T20:13:32Z")

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[The moron-in-chief thinks the US Coast Guard has aircraft carriers](https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/05/17/trump-coast-guard-saved-money-f-35-aircraft-carrier/?ESRC=dod_170519.nl).

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/996 "2017-05-20T20:33:05Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> But it’s okay. Presidents may declassify anything. By sharing it, he declassified it. So, technically, he did not share classified information.

But he can’t release his tax returns, because audits.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/997 "2017-05-20T20:37:03Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [The moron-in-chief thinks the US Coast Guard has aircraft carriers](https://www.dodbuzz.com/2017/05/17/trump-coast-guard-saved-money-f-35-aircraft-carrier/?ESRC=dod_170519.nl).

And jet fighters.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/998 "2017-05-20T21:09:19Z")

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Today, on my Facebook feed, I got a Sarah Palin post asking “Hey, Snowflake, how has President Trump pissed you off today?”

It showed up on my feed because on of my cousins is a conservative Catholic.

So I answered the question with “Appointing an adulteress to be the ambassador to the Vatican.”

Too easy sometimes…

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/999 "2017-05-20T23:06:19Z")

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> [@Truman\_Burbank](#):
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> Today, on my Facebook feed, I got a Sarah Palin post asking “Hey, Snowflake, how has President Trump pissed you off today?”
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> It showed up on my feed because on of my cousins is a conservative Catholic.
> 
> So I answered the question with “Appointing an adulteress to be the ambassador to the Vatican.”
> 
> Too easy sometimes…

Oh come on …sometimes?

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1000 "2017-05-21T13:56:03Z")

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Not so much Trump but two-faced supporters in Congress.

Caught parts of Jake Tapper’s show on CNN. Couple of idiot GOP Congresscritters saying it’s a good thing Trump won’t use the phrase “Radical Islamic Terrorism” in today’s speech so we don’t alienate current and potential allies.  
Little kids in refugee camps are potential targets for recruitment unless we get them out and improve their lives.

Looks like that Obama fellow was pretty smart after all.

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