# How has Former President Trump pissed you off today?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640 "2017-01-20T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1841 "2017-09-26T21:48:34Z")

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I just saw footage of Trump advising Catalonians to stick with Spain “because it’s a great country” and it has a “great history”.

I guess that’s one way of telling people that he thinks Europe’s a dump because he cheered when Britain left it. Seems he also thought that Scotland should be happy to leave crappy England.

I swear, even when he tries to be a unifying voice…

Oh, what’s the point? I’ve got a crappy president. He makes Kim Jong look like the sane guy in the room.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1842 "2017-09-28T04:28:33Z")

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Hurricane in Puerto Rico? [To hell with those wanting to help](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-refuses-send-more-195456324.html). You’ll note in that article that help was not hindered to states hit by recent hurricanes. Now, why do you suppose that is? Here’s a hint: both Texas and Florida voted Trump.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1843 "2017-09-28T04:39:28Z")

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And now we learn that, not content with physically mocking\* a disabled reporter during the campaign, Trump is reported to be [physically mocking both McConnell and McCain](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-mcconnell-john-mccain-health-care-alabama-election-2017-9) in private.

I despise McConnell; despite his helping to kill ACA repeal I don’t much care for McCain, for many reasons; but goddammit, mockingly aping McConnell is simply childish, and mockingly aping the arm movements of McCain, who broke both arms in the crash that made him a North Vietnamese prisoner, is just downright despicable for anyone, let alone Mr. “Bone Spur” Deferment.

- Not gonna link to video of it; my blood pressure doesn’t need to see it again and it’s easy to find online.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1844 "2017-09-28T06:04:15Z")

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Not waiving the Jones act for Puerto Rico

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1845 "2017-09-28T14:21:01Z")

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Just did, actually: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1846 "2017-09-28T15:10:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Just did, actually: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html)

Kind of like what Churchill said about America: we’ll do the right thing once all alternatives have been exhausted.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1847 "2017-09-28T16:44:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Just did, actually: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/puerto-rico-governor-white-house-jones-act-waiver/index.html)

10 days? That’s mighty white of him.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1848 "2017-09-28T19:30:26Z")

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To paraphrase Trump’s statement in the linked article: he was considering waiving the Jones Act, but a lot of shipping companies were opposed.

So in other words, Crowley Maritime gets a vote as to whether or not the people of Puerto Rico get humanitarian relief.

I’m not shocked that it’s true, just that he was stupid enough to say it out loud.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1849 "2017-09-28T21:57:19Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’m not shocked that it’s true, just that he was stupid enough to say it out loud.

Why does that surprise you?

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1850 "2017-09-29T19:12:28Z")

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Well, this seems to be diving towards pure fascism where dissent will no longer be tolerated…

(bolding mine)  
The Justice Department is demanding that Facebook turn over information from three accounts that could provide access to the personal details of thousands of activists who \*\*expressed interest in \*\* **anti-Trump rallies**.  
The department obtained search warrants targeting three Facebook accounts that were used to **organize Inauguration Day protests** against Donald Trump, the ACLU said late Thursday. But accessing those accounts would provide information on thousands of other users who " **liked" an anti-Trump Facebook page** , the group explained.  
The ACLU’s Washington, D.C., office said in a statement it would fight the enforcement of the search warrants.  
“Opening up the entire contents of a personal Facebook page for review by the government is a gross invasion of privacy,” said Scott Michelman, a senior staff attorney at ACLU. “When law enforcement officers can comb through records concerning political organizing in opposition to the very administration for which those officers work, **the result is the chilling of First Amendment-protected political activity**.”

> **[Feds demand Facebook share information on anti-Trump protesters](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/feds-demand-facebook-share-information-anti-trump-protesters-n805801)**
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> Prosecutors are demanding Facebook share information that could provide access to personal details of thousands who expressed interest in anti-Trump rallies.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1851 "2017-09-29T19:30:11Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Well, this seems to be diving towards pure fascism where dissent will no longer be tolerated…
> 
> (bolding mine)  
> The Justice Department is demanding that Facebook turn over information from three accounts that could provide access to the personal details of thousands of activists who \*\*expressed interest in \*\* **anti-Trump rallies**.  
> The department obtained search warrants targeting three Facebook accounts that were used to **organize Inauguration Day protests** against Donald Trump, the ACLU said late Thursday. But accessing those accounts would provide information on thousands of other users who " **liked" an anti-Trump Facebook page** , the group explained.  
> The ACLU’s Washington, D.C., office said in a statement it would fight the enforcement of the search warrants.  
> “Opening up the entire contents of a personal Facebook page for review by the government is a gross invasion of privacy,” said Scott Michelman, a senior staff attorney at ACLU. “When law enforcement officers can comb through records concerning political organizing in opposition to the very administration for which those officers work, **the result is the chilling of First Amendment-protected political activity**.”
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> [Feds Demand Facebook Share Information on Anti-Trump Protesters](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/feds-demand-facebook-share-information-anti-trump-protesters-n805801)

You left out the part about the illegal planning of violent protests and the approval of a federal judge of the warrant.

> **[Why does the Justice Department want to know who visited a Trump protest...](https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/justice-department-wants-records-visitors-trump-protest-site-n792896)**
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> The prosecution of Inauguration Day protesters has led the Feds to demand a web host turn over info on all visits to DisruptJ20.org — raising red flags for legal experts.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1852 "2017-09-29T19:34:12Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> You left out the part about the illegal planning of violent protests and the approval of a federal judge of the warrant.
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> [Justice Department Wants Records on Visitors to Trump Protest Site](https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/justice-department-wants-records-visitors-trump-protest-site-n792896)

This part.

> [@](#):
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> But the target of the search warrant, a web-hosting company that has already provided information about the people who registered for the site, says the feds have gone too far by\*\* seeking IP addresses for anyone who entered the site\*\*.

_Visiting_ a site is legal.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1853 "2017-09-29T19:37:47Z")

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“The fact is that Puerto Rico has been destroyed by two hurricanes. Big decisions will have to be made as to the cost of its rebuilding!”

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/913724766208610304>

I wonder if there are going to be big decisions about the cost of rebuilding Texas and Florida.

“This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”

> **[Trump says Puerto Rico relief hampered by ‘big water, ocean water’](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353094-trump-says-puerto-rico-relief-hampered-by-big-water-ocean-water/)**
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> President Trump on Friday said the disaster relief effort in Puerto Rico is complicated because it is “surrounded by water.” “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water.…

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1854 "2017-09-29T20:14:32Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This part.
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> _Visiting_ a site is legal.

The ACLU’s motion to quash:

> **[motion\_to\_quash\_-\_filed.pdf](https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/motion_to_quash_-_filed.pdf)**
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**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1855 "2017-09-29T21:58:54Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This part.
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> _Visiting_ a site is legal.

You think the Trump pussies care about legal? They’re all soft as marshmallows.

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**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1856 "2017-09-29T22:49:12Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”

Looks like the President has been watching [documentaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_IX:_Journey_to_Big_Water) again!

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1857 "2017-09-29T22:58:13Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Well, this seems to be diving towards pure fascism where dissent will no longer be tolerated…  
> …  
> The Justice Department is demanding that Facebook turn over information from three accounts that could provide access to the personal details of thousands of activists who \*\*expressed interest in \*\* **anti-Trump rallies**.

A lot of that going on. From just last month:

> [@](#):
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> The website-hosting service DreamHost has welcomed the Department of Justice’s decision to narrow its demand for information about visitors to an anti-Donald Trump website.  
> …  
> the DOJ wanted it to hand over a list of all the IP addresses that identify the computers used to access [DisruptJ20.org](http://DisruptJ20.org). That’s around 1.3 million IP addresses in total, and DreamHost’s lawyers said the request was too broad.
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> [Fortune.com](http://fortune.com/2017/08/23/doj-dreamhost-anti-trump/)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1858 "2017-09-29T22:58:47Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> “The fact is that Puerto Rico has been destroyed by two hurricanes. Big decisions will have to be made as to the cost of its rebuilding!”  
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/913724766208610304)
> 
> I wonder if there are going to be big decisions about the cost of rebuilding Texas and Florida.
> 
> “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”  
> [http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353094-trump-says-puerto-rico-relief-hampered-by-big-water-ocean-water](http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/353094-trump-says-puerto-rico-relief-hampered-by-big-water-ocean-water)

And at the same time Resident Chump keeps talking about some yuge sums of money PR owes to Wall Street.

I see vultures circling very soon if not already…

“disaster capitalists” buying land for pennies on the dollar, from people already teetering on the edge,  
collection agencies going nuts and tacking on “late fees” for people who are already wiped out,  
banks jacking up interest rates on usurious repair loans,  
costs of food and water skyrocketing,

etc etc etc etc.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1859 "2017-09-29T22:59:49Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> _Visiting_ a site is legal.

No! Fake News!

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/777640/1860 "2017-09-30T00:22:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> “This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.”

Well, he’s right. We shouldn’t mock him, we should encourage these baby steps toward acknowledging reality.

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