# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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Probably in line for another Michigan Man of the Year.

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Michael Cohen says that Individual 1 was planning on using the classified documents as a get out of jail free card, or else he would give them to Russia or Iran.

> **[Trump believed the classified documents stashed at Mar-a-Lago were his 'get...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-believed-classified-documents-stashed-153715678.html)**
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> Speaking to Salon, Michael Cohen suggested that Donald Trump might threaten to turn over classified info to foreign adversaries to save himself from prosecution.

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Guantanamo Bay would be the perfect place for Trump once he’s convicted. Lock. Him. Up.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Michael Cohen says that Individual 1 was planning on using the classified documents as a get out of jail free card, or else he would give them to Russia or Iran.

Who knows if that is true. But he is into extortion. See Ukraine. That didn’t pan out. Nor did his abuse of power and veiled threats against the Secretary of State of Georgia (find me 11000 votes).

I think trying to extort the US Government would not end well for him. But he certainly is stupid enough to try it.

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And I wish he would unequivocally try!

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I find it hard to believe that even he would believe that extortion would work against the US government, but I could be wrong. He just hires people who will get him what he wants without having to think of how to actually accomplish it himself.

Still, why would anyone think the government would go for that? They could say okay, we won’t prosecute you, and then he’d just release the classified information to our enemies anyway. So of course they’re going to do whatever they can legally to try to prevent that.

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> I find it hard to believe that even he would believe that extortion would work against the US government, but I could be wrong. He just hires people who will get him what he wants without having to think of how to actually accomplish it himself.

He hires a guy who hires a guy to make the threat and he has nothing to lose. Gullible idiots gladly take a legal bullet for him. Meanwhile he just shrugs and claims any insinuation of misconduct on his part is fakenewswitchhuntcovfefe.

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That’s fakenewswitchuntcivfefelockheruptheelectionwasstolenbirthcertificate, thank you very much

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Individual 1 was planning on using the classified documents as a get out of jail free card, or else he would give them to Russia or Iran.

I think he meant ‘sell them to Russia or Iran’. Trump isn’t giving anything of value away.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2330 "2022-10-10T19:41:20Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I think he meant ‘sell them to Russia or Iran’. Trump isn’t giving anything of value away.

Yup. And I would not be the least bit surprised if Russia has compromising information on Trump. Maybe Trump want’s to make that go away. But on the other hand, he doesn’t seem to care two shits about what people think of him. Except of course dictators and his rich friends (which are really not his friends)

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2331 "2022-10-10T20:03:35Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> > Individual 1 was planning on using the classified documents as a get out of jail free card, or else he would give them to Russia or Iran.
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> I think he meant ‘sell them to Russia or Iran’. Trump isn’t giving anything of value away.

How about using them as “Get out of the U.S. Free” cards? What country would give him sanctuary unless he brought something of value with?

Dan

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Trump will never leave the US. Up until the minute the cell door clangs behind him, his ego won’t let him believe anything bad could ever happen to such a fine fellow as he.

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Is Individual 1 threatening Jews?

> **[Trump Berates American Jews For Not Having Enough Gratitude Towards Him](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-american-jews-1234612062/)**
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> After a week in which the MAGA movement covered for Kanye West’s anti-Semitism, the former president wants to know why Jewish voters aren’t more eager to support him

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> “No President has done more for Israel than I have,” Trump wrote

I don’t know if that’s true or not (I suspect it’s not) but this American Jew cares a whole lot more about the damage he did to my county than any claimed benefit to Israel.

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Nice that Trump is also playing the dual loyalty dog whistle card.

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Is Individual 1 threatening Jews?  
> [Trump Berates American Jews For Not Having Enough Gratitude Towards Him](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-american-jews-1234612062/)

“Before it is too late” certainly sounds like a threat to me.

Trump knows he has millions of fans who thrill to this kind of thing.

And yes: there was another guy, some decades back, who had millions of fans who thrilled to that kind of thing.

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I bet Trump does not suffer even a moment of discomfort for his antisemitism. I don’t know why he gets away with it but it doesn’t seem to matter what he says. Add it to the outrage pile where it will sit with all the other things he has been saying for years. It won’t matter one bit. No one will hold him to account for it. Talking heads on TV will talk about what a racist he is and that will fill the airwaves for a moment or two until he insults some other group he doesn’t like.

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I bet Trump does not suffer even a moment of discomfort for his antisemitism.

If only it would get Allen Weisselberg to flip on him …

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“Of course Trump is talking about **those other** Jews…”

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I would not be the least bit surprised if Russia has compromising information on Trump.

It’s only compromising when those who should hold him to account care about that information. The fucker instigated a fucking insurection against our government last year, and his follower still adore him. At this point, Putin’s probably kicking _himself_ in the ass for all the money and resources he wasted on compromsing the SOB.

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