# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2981 "2023-01-03T23:40:35Z")

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It’s simply part of his pattern.

As long as the pro-life right held the key to the nomination for him, Trump was all in favor of their position.

But now that it looks like an electoral loser, he’s going to turn on them.

If he had been against abortion as a principle, he wouldn’t be doing what he just did - he would be talking up the party line about how America needs the “culture of life” and how important it is to fight for those values.

Instead, the “most pro-life president in American history” is showing that he has no internal values system of his own - that all he craves is popularity and respect, but he knows how to get neither.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2982 "2023-01-04T02:59:21Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> that all he craves is popularity and respect, but he knows how to get neither.

I’m pretty sure he knows how to get a certain amount of it - by being a bigoted asshole, which seems to fit many of his natural inclinations.

He doesn’t, however, know how to get it from more than the ~40% of Americans who are also bigoted assholes, nor how to sustain it for more than a few years, which he’s mainly done so far by getting the low hanging fruit.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2983 "2023-01-04T13:48:33Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> showing that he has no internal values system of his own

He can’t find someone to sell him a gold plated set of internal values . . . not that that person would ever actually get paid for them.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2984 "2023-01-04T16:01:26Z")

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Morals and ethics are even more expensive. Very hard to install too.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2985 "2023-01-04T16:14:32Z")

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Nonsense! Trump has the best moral and ethics! Better than Lincoln, Washington, Mother Theresa and Gandhi put together. The Pope told him that in person! “You have the most amazing ethnics, Sir!” he said, with tears in his eyes!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2986 "2023-01-04T18:12:06Z")

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“Ethnics,” eh?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2987 "2023-01-04T18:17:26Z")

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Well, that’s what this is **really** about, isn’t it? It’s what _everything_ is really about.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2988 "2023-01-18T19:42:44Z")

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So Individual 1 just collected empty folders labeled Classified, with no papers in them.

> <https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1615705410375225346/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2989 "2023-01-18T19:43:58Z")

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That’s not how it works.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2990 "2023-01-18T20:33:54Z")

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I’m rather impressed. It only took him 4 months to come up with that excuse. I would have put the over/under at a year.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2991 "2023-01-18T21:28:52Z")

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“… in order to make the Biden Classified Docs look less significant.” Sure, Donnie. Let’s just forget about the fact that _your_ classified documents fiasco has been going on pretty much as long as you’ve been out of office, and they just found Biden’s classified documents within the last couple of months. They raided your house and took all those empty folders and made a big deal about it because they knew they were going to need cover for Biden _six months later!_

Yeesh what a fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2992 "2023-01-18T22:10:15Z")

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The fact that they are empty now is what I’m worried about.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2993 "2023-01-18T22:29:34Z")

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No shit.

Oh, the FBI planted them. And OH! he declassified them by thinking about them. And OH! He didn’t have them in the first place. And now they are empty.

Uh oh. That asshole will do anything for a buck, and is a traitor to the United States. Some of his best friends are enemies to the United States.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2994 "2023-01-19T10:19:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Oh, the FBI planted them. And OH! he declassified them by thinking about them. And OH! He didn’t have them in the first place. And now they are empty.

And he wants the files back. That the FBI planted. That weren’t there.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2995 "2023-01-19T10:38:23Z")

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It’s almost like he’s using a special edition of [President Predicto](https://trumpsuperstore.com/product/president-predicto-trump-magic-8-ball/)!

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2996 "2023-01-19T13:33:21Z")

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Okay, does this score highest on the _Hilarious_ scale, the _Most Pathetic_ scale, or the _Liar Liar Pants on Fire_ scale?

> **[Trump thought photo of accuser was of ex-wife during deposition](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/01/18/trump-deposition-carroll-photo/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjYyMDc3NTgiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjc0MTM0ODU0LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjc1MzQ0NDU0LCJpYXQiOjE2NzQxMzQ4NTQsImp0aSI6ImRkZDgyNDJhLTdjOGEtNDliNi05YzU2LTkzODVjODFiMDU4MiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDIzLzAxLzE4L3RydW1wLWRlcG9zaXRpb24tY2Fycm9sbC1waG90by8ifQ.qVGWMPI0Ze6710ujGbnKib-nOz7wO9pRb0lnw2DjOlo&itid=gfta)**
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> Trump mistook his sexual assault accuser E. Jean Carroll for his ex-wife Marla Maples when shown a photograph from the 1990s during a deposition.

> …  
> Trump, who is being sued by Carroll, an author and advice columnist, for defamation and sexual assault stemming from the same alleged encounter, has repeatedly said Carroll is not his “type,” suggesting an assault could not have occurred because he would not have pursued her romantically.
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> “That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife,” Trump said under examination from Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, in a new selection of excerpts from the deposition that was unsealed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
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> Trump’s blunder in a sworn deposition was quickly corrected by his attorney Alina Habba, who told him it was Carroll, not Maples, an actress and singer who was married to Trump from 1993 to 1999.
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> Trump’s lawyer did not immediately have a comment.  
> …

I’ll bet she didn’t. 🙄

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2997 "2023-01-19T14:25:28Z")

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Or just proof that he _really is_ cognitively impaired? Maybe they should do that “man woman person tv camera” test on him again and see if he aces it this time.

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That would be entertaining since the actual cognitive screening he’s referring to asks for the names of the last 4 presidents. Will he say “Biden”?

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/2999 "2023-01-19T16:12:20Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Or just proof that he _really is_ cognitively impaired?

That’s my assumption. I don’t think he’d deliberately lie about that sort of thing (because it doesn’t serve him to do so, he’ll of course lie when it suits him). I simply think he’s not firing on all cylinders. He’s closer to 80 than 70 at this point.

(I also wouldn’t be surprised if Joe Biden has that problem at times as well, but honestly, he has been so gaffe-prone for his entire life in the public eye that it’s hard to tell.)

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Is it possible his lawyer told him to say that as proof that he doesn’t know Carroll?

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