# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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Of course it’s possible, his lawyers are terrible. That’s what happens when you never pay people you hire, you only get the dregs. Particularly Habba.

> **[The One Trump Lawyer the Rest of Trump’s Legal Team Loathes](https://www.thedailybeast.com/alina-habba-the-trump-lawyer-the-rest-of-trumps-legal-team-loathes)**
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> Alina Habba has developed quite the reputation.

> Many of Habba’s fellow senior Trumpland attorneys—including but not limited to Alan Garten—have all privately vented that she has botched things or doesn’t know what she’s doing, according to Trumpworld legal sources intimately familiar with the topic. Some of them want her fired or sidelined.

When she’s being called horrible and incompetent by his _other_ lawyers, that’s pretty bad.

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When has he ever listened to his lawyers (real lawyers anyway)?

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> [Quoting The Daily Beast]  
> …she has botched things or doesn’t know what she’s doing…

Sounds like trump’s soulmate.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> When has he ever listened to his lawyers (real lawyers anyway)?..

Good point.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Sounds like trump’s soulmate.

I’m just waiting for her to dye her hair blonde.

Also from that article:

> In private, Trump has repeatedly commented on how much she “loves Trump” and has on many occasions gushed to close associates about her physical appearance—how she’s “a beauty” on TV and at his clubs, according to two sources who’ve talked to him about Habba in recent months.

Creepy.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3005 "2023-01-19T16:27:31Z")

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One thing I’ve noticed over the years is that the only women Trump hires or appoints is usually quite attractive.

Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that attractive women are not sharp as tacks, but I think that looks are the first part of the qualification process. And for Trump, it may be the only qualification.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> And for Trump, it may be the only qualification…

In this case, apparently it is.

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> [@enipla](#):
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> One thing I’ve noticed over the years is that the only women Trump hires or appoints is usually quite attractive.

See this article:

> **[Who are the new faces on Trump’s legal team defending him over FBI raid](https://www.yahoo.com/now/faces-trump-legal-team-defending-144339941.html)**
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> Former president has an army of lawyers to fight his various legal battles – but also has a history of choosing attorneys who generated their own issues

> [@enipla](#):
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> Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that attractive women are not sharp as tacks, but I think that looks are the first part of the qualification process. And for Trump, it may be the only qualification.

To be fair, one of their tasks is to do the talk show circuit, so being photogenic is a valid qualification.

But if I’m hiring a lawyer, I’d hope that they know how to be a lawyer too.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Sounds like trump’s soulmate.

This suggests that he has a soul. There’s no evidence supporting this idea.

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Oh yeah… you’re right. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3010 "2023-01-19T17:09:40Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But if I’m hiring a lawyer, I’d hope that they know how to be a lawyer too.

Not just be a lawyer, but be an excellent lawyer. I remember a quote from someone decades ago: “Unlike their doctors, people want their lawyers looking as prosperous as possible.”

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Trump mistook E. Jean Carroll for his ex-wife, Marla Maples. Carroll isn’t his type, he says, but Maples clearly was (or at least, was enough so that he actually, y’know, _married_ her)! Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Not just be a lawyer, but be an excellent lawyer. I remember a quote from someone decades ago: “Unlike their doctors, people want their lawyers looking as prosperous as possible.”

Hard to look prosperous when you don’t get paid.

“The former president also has a reputation for not paying his contractors. USA Today found that over a 30-year period, Mr Trump was involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits in which contractors alleged he or his organisations did not pay them for their work.”

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Why do the lawyers keep signing on?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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I guarantee that you had no idea who Alina Habba was before she was Trump’s lawyer. (Nor did anyone else; she was a small-time lawyer who just happened to have an office 8 minutes away from Mar-A-Lago.)

Now she’s a television celebrity.

I wonder if lawyers see working for Trump as a sort of internship.

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There was a story circulating months ago that Trump supposedly refused to nominate Nikki Haley for Secretary of State because of her ‘bad complexion.’ Completely believable.

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He also prefers women who are dependent upon him.

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> There was a story circulating months ago that Trump supposedly refused to nominate Nikki Haley for Secretary of State because of her ‘bad complexion.’ Completely believable. -

He _is_ the expert on bad complexions.

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On the other hand, IIRC “insufficiently orange” has never been a reason for the Senate to deny its advice and consent to a presidential nominee.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> “The former president also has a reputation for not paying his contractors. USA Today found that over a 30-year period, Mr Trump was involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits in which contractors alleged he or his organisations did not pay them for their work.”

Ya know, H. H. Holmes built his Murder House in Chicago the same way. Is that a sign of a psychopath?

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