# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 164
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3261 "2023-02-21T16:21:09Z")
> **[Trump Defends Putin as Biden Visits War-Torn Ukraine](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-defends-putin-as-biden-visits-war-torn-ukraine/ar-AA17Jh5S)** > > The former president said his personal relationship with the Russian autocrat would have prevented the invasion ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3262 "2023-02-21T18:08:12Z")
Individual 1 wants the federall government to take over school discipline, because that will end all carjackings. > ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3263 "2023-02-21T18:12:10Z")
The party of small government. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3264 "2023-02-21T18:13:58Z")
Tell me that’s parody?! Please? Probably just the public schools with those people; certainly not the school voucher funded private religious institutions. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3265 "2023-02-21T18:17:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Individual 1 wants the federall government to take over school discipline, because that will end all carjackings. As we all know, if he actually were president again, he’d never mention this again. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3266 "2023-02-21T18:18:30Z")
Wait. The same Dept. of Education they are trying to abolish? > **[Rep. Massie Reintroduces Bill to Abolish Federal Department of Education](https://massie.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=395519)** ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3267 "2023-02-21T18:22:02Z")
They want it abolished if Dems are running it, and used as a blunt-force weapon of they’re running it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3268 "2023-02-21T18:30:55Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The party of small government. Trump is not and never has been a conservative as I came to understand conservative values growing up. MAGA is a totally new and different thing that has redefined conservatism. “Small government” has nothing to do with it. Honestly, outside of “don’t make me wear a mask” or the myth about the new army of IRS auditors, I haven’t heard a peep out of people on the right complaining about government overreach or size for years. I feel like Trump showed them that big government is great if you’re the one running it. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3269 "2023-02-21T18:51:28Z")
Trump didn’t show them that. They were already on board with big government the whole time as long as it was stuff they liked (Defense in particular, but also pork barrel spending - as long as it was local to them). “Big government” for most of them (to be fair, some truly wanted smaller government in general) was a dog whistle to reduce spending on ‘those’ people. What Trump did was remind the politicians of this fact. Several members of the GOP were (and are still) drinking their own Kool-Aid on spending. It’s why he’s never been big on cuts to Social Security or Medicare. That’s a great talking point during election season but only pretend to try following through once you’re in office. Somewhere along the way, the True Believers took over the asylum ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3270 "2023-02-21T19:16:31Z")
Small-handed government. The easier to pick your pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3271 "2023-02-21T19:32:35Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The party of small government. > [@Atamasama](#): > > Trump showed them that big government is great if you’re the one running it. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > They were already on board with big government the whole time as long as it was stuff they liked It’s really quite simple: Government needs to be as big as possible to stamp out stuff they don’t like (abortion, LGBTQ rights, nasty books about slavery, etc.) and as small as possible to allow stuff they do like (avoiding taxes, conducting business free of regulations, eschewing masks during a pandemic). AKA [Wilhoit’s law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_M._Wilhoit): > Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3272 "2023-02-21T19:41:39Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > They were already on board with big government the whole time as long as it was stuff they liked (Defense in particular, but also pork barrel spending - as long as it was local to them). Hmm, that is true. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3273 "2023-02-21T20:27:19Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Wait. The same Dept. of Education they are trying to abolish? I first thought, Department of Energy. You know, the one Rick Perry was going to abolish if only he could recall the name while in the 2016 debates. The same Rick Perry who PAB\* made the DOE Secretary because “Energy is oil and Perry’s from Texas and I met and liked him backstage at the debates so he’s qualified.” Then it came to me; the same DOEducation the GQP has been railing against for decades. “How dare they teach history/evolution/critical thinking; science is debatable; pi=3; ketchup is a vegetable; free meals? - let them eat their bootstraps; funding? what funding?” \*PAB - pussy assed bitch, you can look it up, it’s in the congressional record! ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3274 "2023-02-21T22:26:35Z")
As an aside, I’m re-watching Bosch and they use PAB a lot to refer to police headquarters or something. This has completely changed the show for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3275 "2023-02-21T23:29:50Z")
Huh, I didn’t know that about Reagan. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3276 "2023-02-21T23:46:24Z")
Well, Reagan is the same guy who said during his inaugural address, “Government is not the solution to our problem, _government is the problem_.” So that’s totally consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3277 "2023-02-22T00:59:45Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > As an aside, I’m re-watching Bosch and they use PAB a lot to refer to police headquarters or something. Public Administration Building. I like pussy assed bitch a whole lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3278 "2023-02-22T02:10:27Z")
It occurred to me sometime ago that Tan the Conman might be right there. While TtC was sullying the office of the President of the United States, Putin was essentially running two countries. Now that TtC lost the election, that meant the Tsar had to go searching for another country to run and he fixated on Ukraine. Another issue: Tan the Conman is not now and never has been Republican. He’s never been Democrat either. He’s your basic Nazi with tints of KKK. You know, bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3279 "2023-02-22T15:04:39Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-used-10-million-of-donor-money-to-pay-his-personal-legal-bills/ar-AA17M6ee](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-used-10-million-of-donor-money-to-pay-his-personal-legal-bills/ar-AA17M6ee) > Donald Trump spent $10 million of his political action committee’s money to pay for his personal legal bills in 2022, The New York Times reported on Tuesday. > > The Times notes Trump’s Save America PAC spent $16 million total on legal payments, and that although some of that money went to lawyers representing Trump allies, the majority of it went to lawyers representing Trump himself as the former president has fought a variety of investigations. The $10 million figure represents nearly 20 percent of the PAC’s total expenditures. > > It’s unclear how Trump’s 2024 presidential candidacy will impact his ability to use political donations to handle his personal legal needs… > > Trump’s legal troubles are so vast that his lawyers are hiring their own lawyers… > > Trump has a long history of using political donations to enrich himself ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3280 "2023-02-22T15:47:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Trump’s legal troubles are so vast that his lawyers are hiring their own lawyers… Hence “MAGA = My Attorneys Got Attorneys” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=163) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=165)