# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 176
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3501 "2023-05-05T15:53:23Z")
So if election denialists are saying Trump actually won in 2020, wouldn’t that mean he’s ineligible to run in 2024, since a single person can’t be president for more than two consecutive terms? In other words, if he’s running in 2024, then he must have lost in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3502 "2023-05-05T15:56:17Z")
“Everything I say is a lie. I’m telling the truth now” If they had a brain, they might understand the conflict here. But of course they don’t and they won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3503 "2023-05-05T16:04:24Z")
Since he “won” the election but his bespoke mob failed to stop the certification of the fake Dominion votes etc etc, he was never actually elected. That clears him to “win” for a third time. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3504 "2023-05-05T16:06:48Z")
Good on you for assuming the best of people, including the idea they attempt to present logically consistent arguments. But seriously, they’re all a bunch of would-be authoritarians who don’t care about the law or logic actually dictate as long as they have a plausible enough rationale to justify the outcome to themselves and their ilk. Putting forth a rational argument to them is an exercise in a debate with a 3-year old (“yes it is”, “no it isn’t”, “yes, it is” _ad nauseum et infinitum_) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3505 "2023-05-05T18:03:01Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > So if election denialists are saying Trump actually won in 2020, wouldn’t that mean he’s ineligible to run in 2024, since a single person can’t be president for more than two consecutive terms? In other words, if he’s running in 2024, then he must have lost in 2020. Yes, I suggested in this or some other SDMB thread that he be asked about that under oath in a deposition in one of his many lawsuits, to box him in under the pains and penalty of perjury that he was _elected_ twice under the 22nd Amendment, but I have to agree that it wouldn’t change any MAGAheads’ minds. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3506 "2023-05-05T18:13:22Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The fact that he thinks “fortunately” is a possible view on men’s nonconsensual sexual power over women over millennia… speaks volumes. Fortunately for the men like him, unfortunately for the women they come in contact with. But as far as he is concerned only the first group counts. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3507 "2023-05-05T18:35:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But as far as he is concerned only the first group counts you mean grope. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3508 "2023-05-05T20:32:40Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yes, I suggested in this or some other SDMB thread that he be asked about that under oath in a deposition in one of his many lawsuits, to box him in under the pains and penalty of perjury that he was _elected_ twice under the 22nd Amendment, but I have to agree that it wouldn’t change any MAGAheads’ minds. It’s always fun seeing someone get hoisted by their own petards though. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3509 "2023-05-05T20:35:31Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It’s always fun seeing someone get hoisted by their own petards though He won’t get hoisted. This is the same guy who said he deserved an extra term because …reasons. He doesn’t see the 22nd amendment as a bar. [Believe it or not, Donald Trump says he should get a third term | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/donald-trump-third-term-2024/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3510 "2023-05-05T20:36:33Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It’s always fun seeing someone get hoisted by their own petards though. 😁 Let’s keep this PG13. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3511 "2023-05-05T20:51:03Z")
Well, now I’m just bored. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3512 "2023-05-06T05:08:11Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > "Everything I say is a lie. I’m telling the truth now” We actually have [video](https://youtu.be/gZN2eoAPCwY) of this. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3513 "2023-05-07T02:07:35Z")
Oh good grief, that speech sounds like Trump has really taken _The Turner Diaries_ to heart. I actually read the book myself. It was a tough slog, as disgusting as it was. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3514 "2023-05-08T13:03:32Z")
Big strong men have been throwing phones for a million years, unfortunately—or fortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3515 "2023-05-08T18:40:30Z")
I’m a little ticked off Trump feels the need to undermine the Armed Forces of the United States by saying they can’t fight or win right now. I’d say this would kill his chances at re-election, but if mocking a POW and refusing to visit the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris because it was “filled with losers” wasn’t enough to piss off all those patriots who live him I don’t think his supporters will care about this either. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3516 "2023-05-09T19:37:56Z")
He;s judged guilty of assault but not of rape? Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3517 "2023-05-09T19:56:28Z")
That’s what was before the court: [Live updates: Jury finds Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll in civil case](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial-verdict-05-09-23/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3518 "2023-05-09T19:58:16Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > He;s judged guilty of assault but not of rape? The jury in that trial narrowly defined rape as “penetration with a penis”. The New York State [definition of rape](https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/130.35) includes “sexual intercourse”, and that must be how the jury was instructed to treat it. The definition will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In other places, “rape” can involve involuntary penetration by just about any object in any orifice. But if he sexually assaulted her without engaging in actual penetration with his eenie weenie, then in this case he was not deemed to have raped her. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3519 "2023-05-09T20:04:47Z")
That is disgusting, that hairsplitting. As a rape victim I can say that no matter what is done, rape occured. What if he…no, I’m not going to write _ **that** _ down. But if the stories are true, at least he has little hands. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/3520 "2023-05-09T20:05:04Z")
He was whining on Truth Social that he wasn’t allowed to speak or defend himself: > **[Trump Lies That He Wasn't Able to Defend Himself in Rape Trial](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-lies-wasn-t-able-143426849.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEqxoeOJAcDhMD1LvausCUeGqx_k5eLMdOEvngAL7nqPXjM1Htz_9JefXqq--B4ES3RkJTkZYbIQxAGugHv82Vi2vVbCS_HKj1EkIf5kQqBbsxEzJ1XNMUZgoD-o6gPF3irU5SHQJk2T6edxdQG0ohfRPPJA22dDR2lDmDMoY82W)** > > Jurors will begin deliberating E. Jean Carroll’s civil case against the former president on Tuesday Of course, his lawyer presented no defense and did not file paperwork for Trump to appear. He was too busy playing golf overseas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=175) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=177)