# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 223
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4441 "2023-09-20T17:13:15Z")
Were the subs captained by the ghost of Hugo Chavez? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4442 "2023-09-20T18:01:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Quite a trick in a landlocked state! Hey, Trump was going to put a fence between Colorado and Mexico. Geography is not their thing. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4443 "2023-09-20T20:57:47Z")
They sailed up the Colorado River from the Gulf of California to Yuma and unloaded there. Or they had retractable treads that allowed them to come ashore, crawl across western Sonora, and cross the border. They weren’t detected because they had stealth technology. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4444 "2023-09-24T18:12:14Z")
I debated where to put this, but I think this is the best place. This _Atlantic_ article outlines how Gen. Mark Milley, Trump’s last chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCOS) basically kept Trump from doing all sorts of mischief. (Gift link) > **[Gift Article: The Patriot](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/11/general-mark-milley-trump-coup/675375/?gift=hzomlMR2dBLPzkPdeme4aLPwURhRWrhpuBb3TL7o8QQ&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > How General Mark Milley protected the Constitution from Donald Trump > Twenty men have served as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs since the position was created after World War II. Until Milley, none had been forced to confront the possibility that a president would try to foment or provoke a coup in order to illegally remain in office. A plain reading of the record shows that in the chaotic period before and after the 2020 election, Milley did as much as, or more than, any other American to defend the constitutional order, to prevent the military from being deployed against the American people, and to forestall the eruption of wars with America’s nuclear-armed adversaries. Along the way, Milley deflected Trump’s exhortations to have the U.S. military ignore, and even on occasion commit, war crimes. Milley and other military officers deserve praise for protecting democracy, but their actions should also cause deep unease. In the American system, it is the voters, the courts, and Congress that are meant to serve as checks on a president’s behavior, not the generals. Civilians provide direction, funding, and oversight; the military then follows lawful orders. The article is somewhat reassuring, if one believes that most top officers in the US military are as committed to the Constitution and their oaths as Milley is. But the scary part is that if Trump is re-elected, purging the military (and every other branch of government) of such principled people will undoubtedly be the first priority of the sycophants he surrounds himself with in the White House. It’s a long read – about 13,000 words – but worth it. It left me tremendously impressed with Milley. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4445 "2023-09-24T18:27:29Z")
Trump’s response is to try to get himself thrown in jail: > **[Trump suggests Milley should be executed in possible breach of release...](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-suggests-mark-milley-executed-063701104.html)** > > General Milley recently gave damning interview about Trump’s past comments ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4446 "2023-09-24T22:35:02Z")
For once, I want to see him succeed at something! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4447 "2023-09-25T05:13:01Z")
My favorite part of that Trump quote: > [@](#): > > “This guy turned out to be a Woke train wreck who, if the Fake News reporting is correct, was actually dealing with China […]" 1. “If the Fake News reporting is correct”: See, it’s still called “Fake News” to signal that it can’t be trusted, but he expects his followers to believe its findings if they can be spun to support his narrative. 2. Gee, who was idiot enough to appoint this “Woke train wreck” Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, anyway?.. Oh right, the usual [idiot:](https://www.jbsa.mil/News/News/Article/1708742/president-trump-picks-gen-milley-for-joint-chiefs-chairman/#:~:text=%22I%20am%20pleased%20to%20announce,their%20service%20to%20our%20Country!%22) > [@](#): > > Dec. 10, 2018 > President Trump picks Gen. Milley for Joint Chiefs chairman […] > > In a morning tweet preceding the annual Army-Navy game, Trump tweeted his nomination of Milley. > > “I am pleased to announce my nomination of four-star Gen. Mark Milley, chief of Staff of the United States Army – as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, replacing Gen. Joe Dunford, who will be retiring,” the president tweeted. “I am thankful to both of these incredible men for their service to our Country!” Boy, Trump sure picked a lot of “incredible” appointees that he subsequently furiously denounced, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4448 "2023-09-25T05:27:54Z")
Good article but this part kind of bugs me: > Milley and other military officers deserve praise for protecting democracy, but their actions should also cause deep unease. In the American system, it is the voters, the courts, and Congress that are meant to serve as checks on a president’s behavior, not the generals. Civilians provide direction, funding, and oversight; the military then follows lawful orders. All true but it’s not _their_ fault they suddenly have to be the guard rails but rather the other parts of government failing to do so and, by extension, the turds who voted them in. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4449 "2023-09-25T12:49:35Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > All true but it’s not _their_ fault they suddenly have to be the guard rails but rather the other parts of government failing to do so and, by extension, the turds who voted them in. That’s the worst part of the Trump era - we are at the same time glad the generals stepped in to stop Trump, while also being worried that the generals had to step in to stop Trump. Sure, it worked out this time, but if we’re not MAGAts, we’re smart enough to see how easily it could have gone badly. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4450 "2023-09-25T19:20:36Z")
The fact that he’s shown incredibly poor judgement at every stage of his miserable existence would be a good debate point, if any of his opponents would but take him on. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4451 "2023-09-25T19:42:57Z")
Not so! He’s actually playing ~~2~~ ~~4~~ ~~8~~ ~~16~~ ~~32~~ ~~64~~ ~~128~~ 256 dimension chess, and mooks like the lamestream media are too stupid to appreciate it. The superabundance of benefits will become apparent in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4452 "2023-09-25T20:29:21Z")
Trump might have committed another felony today. Or not. But he probably did. Trump was in a gun shop today admiring a gun with his face on it. Someone with his campaign posted a video where he talked about wanting to buy it, not realizing that it would be a felony because Trump is under indictment for a bunch of other felonies. Then the campaign deleted the video, but MTG and her boyfriend, who were with Trump, helpfully confirmed that he actually purchased it. [https://www.meidastouch.com/news/did-trump-commit-a-felony-at-a-sc-gun-shop-today](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/did-trump-commit-a-felony-at-a-sc-gun-shop-today) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4453 "2023-09-25T20:34:32Z")
Gun accidents happen a lot to those not used to handling them. Oh, please, oh, please. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4454 "2023-09-25T20:41:31Z")
In Trump’s case, I’d suggest that gun accidents are more likely to happen to those in Trump’s proximity, precisely because he’s not used to handling them. _BLAM!_ “Oops, sorry.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4455 "2023-09-25T20:53:12Z")
Except that he wouldn’t say sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4456 "2023-09-25T21:13:10Z")
> Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung clarifies to CNN that former President Donald Trump did NOT purchase a firearm at the armory in Summerville, South Carolina, on Monday. In a bizarre coincidence, a Glock pistol with the image of Trump on its stock was found in a trash can near the gun store. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4457 "2023-09-25T21:53:36Z")
You can’t even buy a gun that has your picture on it with out an ID. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4458 "2023-09-25T21:57:03Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Then the campaign deleted the video, but MTG and her boyfriend, who were with Trump, helpfully confirmed that he actually purchased it. On credit. He is sure to sue them for not paying for his image. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4459 "2023-09-25T21:57:31Z")
I’m not familiar with the gun laws in South Carolina. Do they have reciprocal arrangements with other states that allow persons who are not citizens of South Carolina purchase firearms there? ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4460 "2023-09-25T22:13:29Z")
If you are eligible, you should be able to purchase a non-restricted firearm anywhere in the US. It’s federal, not state laws. State laws would limit what the store could offer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=222) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=224)