# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4461 "2023-09-25T22:32:27Z")
I find it hard to believe that Trump would pay for anything. Could the store owner give it to him? Would that be illegal? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4462 "2023-09-25T22:51:38Z")
That was my thought too. I bet he gave it to him, probably while licking his boots. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4463 "2023-09-25T23:04:26Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > n Trump’s case, I’d suggest that gun accidents are more likely to happen to those in Trump’s proximity, precisely because he’s not used to handling them. > > _BLAM!_ > > “Oops, sorry.” > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Except that he wouldn’t say sorry. “you owe me for that cartridge, loser.” Dan ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4464 "2023-09-25T23:04:43Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Could the store owner give it to him? Would that be illegal? 18 USC § 922 > (d)It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any [firearm](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-849457050-943489799&term_occur=999&term_src=) or [ammunition](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-624731357-816587310&term_occur=999&term_src=) to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person, including as a [juvenile](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-7053138-944435425&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:44:section:922)— > > (1) > > is under [indictment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-579834311-816587313&term_occur=999&term_src=) for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; > (n) > > It shall be unlawful for any person who is under [indictment](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-579834311-816587313&term_occur=999&term_src=) for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year to ship or transport in [interstate or foreign commerce](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-505547303-943489798&term_occur=999&term_src=) any[firearm](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-849457050-943489799&term_occur=999&term_src=)or[ammunition](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-624731357-816587310&term_occur=999&term_src=)or receive any[firearm](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-849457050-943489799&term_occur=999&term_src=)or[ammunition](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-624731357-816587310&term_occur=999&term_src=)which has been shipped or transported in [interstate or foreign commerce](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-505547303-943489798&term_occur=999&term_src=). As I read it, the gunshop owner broke the law if they gave or sold it to Trump. But Trump broke the law only if the gun were manufactured out of state. Again, gift or sale is irrelevant. I assume the interstate commerce part derives from constraints on federal power in the constitution, but I don’t understand why that qualification applies only to the buyer/receiver. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4465 "2023-09-25T23:09:05Z")
It pleases me to think that trump is in trouble. Period. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4466 "2023-09-26T00:16:59Z")
I guess the real question is did he file his 4473 form to purchase the gun. If he did and (undoubtedly) lied on the portion of the form asking about his indictments, then he is guilty of precisely what the Republicans are screaming at Hunter Biden for doing. Unforuntately, I can’t imagine Trump paying for anything so its unlikely that he actually did purchase the gun. Further even if MTG was telling the truth, given that his campaign deleted the video, they probably figured out that his purchasing this would be a huge problem and memory holed the sale and any associated documentation. Still I would like reporters to follow up on what exactly happened because there is not scenario where Trump comes out looking good. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4467 "2023-09-26T00:22:47Z")
[Mouthpiece says the quadruple inductee didn’t buy a weapon.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-spokesperson-reverses-says-ex-185618902.html) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4468 "2023-09-26T01:03:52Z")
While still in South Carolina, Trump delivers another totally deranged speech. > Speaking at a rally in Summerville, South Carolina, Trump said “extreme regulatory attacks” limiting boat speeds of less than 11 miles an hour are making it hard on boating companies and fishermen. > > “This is supposedly in the name of preventing whale strikes, but you have a better chance of being struck by lightning than hitting a whale with your boat,” > Going off on a tangent, the former president then suggested windmills pose a bigger threat to the safety of whales, saying they are causing whales to die “in numbers never seen before.” > **[Trump Accuses Biden of 'Trying to Bludgeon' the Boating Industry During Stop...](https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-accuses-biden-of-trying-to-bludgeon-the-boating-industry-during-stop-in-south-carolina)** > > Trump told a South Carolina crowd that windmills are a bigger threat to whales than boats > “The windmills are driving them crazy. They’re driving the whales, I think, a little batty.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4469 "2023-09-26T01:06:30Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Trump delivers another totally deranged speech So the Don is tilting at windmills. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4470 "2023-09-26T01:25:34Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > “The windmills are driving them crazy. They’re driving the whales, I think, a little batty.” 🤨 🤔 Ohhhh…offshore wind farms using sonar to site the project. Okay, that’s not insane. I mean, almost certainly wrong in this case. But not totally insane as idle speculation. The way Trump was phrasing it made me think his much hypothesized potential “sundowning” was rapidly accelerating and we might be looking at full-blown non-functional dementia long before we got to the election. I mean, we still might. But at least his bullshit came from somewhere this time. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4471 "2023-09-26T01:33:23Z")
“Indictee”? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4472 "2023-09-26T01:36:49Z")
I do not believe there are Glock manufacturers in s.c… ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4473 "2023-09-26T01:39:27Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > suggested windmills pose a bigger threat to the safety of whales, saying they are causing whales to die “in numbers never seen before.” Technically correct; we have never seen this numbers before. They’re imaginary. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4474 "2023-09-26T01:41:12Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I do not believe there are Glock manufacturers in s.c Smyrna, GA.[Facts About GLOCK](https://us.glock.com/en/learn/glock-pistols/facts-about-glock#:~:text=m.b.H.Deutsch%2DWagram%2C%20Austria%2C,first%20subsidiary%20of%20GLOCK%20Ges). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4475 "2023-09-26T02:36:41Z")
Yes, thanks. Can’t believe I made that misspelling! But, hey, if all works to the benefit of all that is good and wholesome, he’ll be inducted into prison soon! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4476 "2023-09-26T03:42:21Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > But, hey, if all works to the benefit of all that is good and wholesome, he’ll be inducted into prison soon! 👍 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4477 "2023-09-26T03:59:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Correct. He could only pardon himself - if at all - while in office, for Federal offenses. This is why he needs to be re-elected SO BADLY. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4478 "2023-09-26T08:11:53Z")
I’m having a bit of a time with his Secret Service detail letting unvetted people pass guns back and forth with him. Easy for one of them to have an “accident”, no? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4479 "2023-09-26T10:40:39Z")
Good guys can always recognize other good guys. Don’t you keep up with the NRA? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4480 "2023-09-26T10:56:39Z")
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