# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 230
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4581 "2023-10-04T22:10:39Z")
Please tell me it’s possible for Cohen to refuse to have the suit dropped. “No… you started this shit, we’re going to finish” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4582 "2023-10-04T22:20:12Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I believe Trump had filed suit against Cohen as a nuisance. So Cohen is the nuisance? Or Trump is being a nuisance? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4583 "2023-10-04T22:27:53Z")
No, but he could countersue. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4584 "2023-10-04T23:22:51Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Which will be spun by Trump as “winning” > ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4585 "2023-10-05T01:36:45Z")
Sheen is talented. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4586 "2023-10-05T03:10:35Z")
It’s a nuisance suit against Cohen. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4587 "2023-10-05T09:28:52Z")
I feel bad snarling this thread but I’m grateful for Donald Trump’s ability to keep me from lumping people who reflect their problems on others. I used to think ‘man those progressives-they only like to blame others for their own problems.’ Trump surely swept that generalization right off the porch. He didn’t do that when he was on the Letterman show and David would bring tourists in Trump Tower. David would say “I’m sure we’re messing up your schedule” and Donald would say “Oh no I got nothing to do.” Donald wasn’t focusing on his own maladies in the good old days. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4588 "2023-10-05T09:51:08Z")
Well, I think it’s a universal human tendency to want to blame somebody else for one’s own problems. Trump is unusual in the degree of delusional ferocity with which he insists on blaming others for his own problems, despite his lack of any coherent rational reason for it. And I doubt that he was fundamentally much different back in the days when he was just a reality-TV star and hot-air artist. (Look at the anecdotes of his pulling out fistfuls of his first wife’s hair when he was frustrated by the poor success of his own hair transplant, for instance.) It’s just that his TV persona back then wasn’t all about trying to get angry resentful irrational conspiracy theorists to identify with him to the point of sending his PAC their money. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4589 "2023-10-05T10:09:50Z")
Kimstu, yeah I see your perspective how he’s probably got the same behavioral range he’s always had. Maybe Donald’s never experienced any crisis that changed his behaviors like others have. Also like you said he’s always had a TV persona and I’ve never had that so I see what you’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4590 "2023-10-05T10:16:07Z")
> [@Eric1](#): > > Maybe Donald’s never experienced any crisis that changed his behaviors like others have. Yeah, AFAICT Trump has never been known for reflecting on his own behavior or on how he might change to be a better person. That doesn’t seem to be the way that crises affect him. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4591 "2023-10-05T10:55:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > But the truth is that a lot of those conservative voices (the ones that didn’t bring an outright suspension or banning on themselves with board rules violations, at least) are still around, lurking and/or in full possession of posting privileges. They’re just not posting anymore because they know we can all see the stupid things they said, and don’t want to be reminded of what asses they were. Speaking as a guy who voted Republican then, and still votes Republican now, and voted Republican in between, I voted against Trump then, and said so, and voted against Trump in ‘20, and said so, and I’ve been accused of lots of things, but I’m pretty sure _“lurking”_ hasn’t been one. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4592 "2023-10-05T12:08:22Z")
Agreed. In no way was I suggesting that you personally should be included among the Doper “conservative voices” that are “lurking” or “just not posting anymore”. TBH I have never really noted you as a determinedly “conservative voice” even back in the day, either. It used to be fairly routine for many voters to prefer Republican candidates without being fans of the American “conservative movement” that gathered steam in the Reagan era. Hell, I’ve voted Republican myself sometimes, back when some of their politicians were neither loons nor cowards and their national party organization wasn’t quite so singlemindedly bent on the destruction of effective democratic governance. I have to say, though, that if you’re still voting Republican these days, either you must be seeing a way better class of Republican candidate in your neck of the woods than we get around here, or you have a much more optimistic view of current Republican Party goals than I do, or both. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4593 "2023-10-05T13:52:56Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Yeah, AFAICT Trump has never been known for reflecting on his own behavior or on how he might change to be a better person. That doesn’t seem to be the way that crises affect him That’s how malignant narcissism works. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4594 "2023-10-05T14:48:19Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Hell, I’ve voted Republican myself sometimes, back when some of their politicians were neither loons nor cowards… > > I have to say, though, that if you’re still voting Republican these days… In California, I was registered as Non-Partisan. Washington doesn’t have party registration. I’ve voted for Republicans in the past, when the candidate was more aligned with my position(s) than the Democrat’s wasn’t. [NB: I almost always preferred the Democratic candidates; but I’d consider the Republicans.] Today? There is no way I’ll ever vote for a Republican again. No matter how moderate his or her position, I won’t even consider it. They can blame Trump. And they can also blame themselves for not holding him to account. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4595 "2023-10-05T14:58:34Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > There is no way I’ll ever vote for a Republican again. No matter how moderate his or her position, I won’t even consider it. They can blame Trump. And they can also blame themselves for not holding him to account. I feel exactly the same way. Even in the highly unlikely event that I agreed with 99% of their positions, a vote for a GOP candidate boosts the brand that made MAGA possible and continues to nourish it. If someone like that wants my vote they need to change parties. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4596 "2023-10-05T16:37:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Today? There is no way I’ll ever vote for a Republican again. No matter how moderate his or her position, I won’t even consider it. They can blame Trump. And they can also blame themselves for not holding him to account. Yup. Me too. The GOP didn’t just allow this behavior. They encouraged it. This is large scale country wide domestic violence. And it’s still happening. “You made me do it” is not a good slogan for a political party. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4597 "2023-10-05T16:39:28Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Yeah, AFAICT Trump has never been known for reflecting on his own behavior or on how he might change to be a better person. I think of him as a person who’s never had to pick up and hang up a used towel from the bathroom floor. ETA: Somewhere on line there’s a video of him carrying an umbrella up stairs into a plane; as he goes through the door he doesn’t even try to close the umbrella, just drops it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4598 "2023-10-05T17:07:28Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > ETA: Somewhere on line there’s a video of him carrying an umbrella up stairs into a plane; as he goes through the door he doesn’t even try to close the umbrella, just drops it. I remember seeing that. I think trying to close it is beyond his mental and physical capabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4599 "2023-10-05T17:15:17Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Somewhere on line there’s a video of him carrying an umbrella up stairs into a plane; as he goes through the door he doesn’t even try to close the umbrella, just drops it. Here it is: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkOl0aUsxE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkOl0aUsxE) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4600 "2023-10-05T17:21:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I have to say, though, that if you’re still voting Republican these days, Or kinda dumb and an easy mark (Un)fortunately, my own choice is simple. We’ve got Troy “former Sheriff too corrupt even for the police to hire / let’s nominate Donald Trump for Speaker” Nehls as our Rep. Gerrymandering has really helped him [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=229) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=231)