# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 234
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4661 "2023-10-08T15:15:53Z")
We’re discussing this over here: > [@Does the display of American flags have some "hidden meaning" these days?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-display-of-american-flags-have-some-hidden-meaning-these-days/990270/1): > > I’ve noticed that in my neighborhood several homes flag US flags nearly daily. It used to be we were one of few houses that flew the flag even on federal holidays. And it isn’t every block. But on some blocks you’ll see as many as 6 American flags - which is more than I used to see on Flag Day or the 4th of July. Some of the are accompanied by “blue stripe” flags, which made me wonder if they intended a specific message. We noticed a lot of flags displayed on a recent trip to a very “red” l… ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4662 "2023-10-08T15:20:33Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > often accompanied by TRUMP 2024 or TRUMP 2020 or TRUMP WON signs. This would be the tipoff. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4663 "2023-10-08T16:28:43Z")
Even when not, 20 or 30 flags in a row seem to bear a message. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4664 "2023-10-08T17:15:07Z")
Yes they can. But does it mean ‘I want my country back’ or ‘destroy it’? Unfortunately, MAGAs think that destroying democracy will bring their country back. The Ward and June country where certain people knew their place. I’m sure there are actual patriots that have gone over the edge on flag displays. But you are probably correct that many, many flags is a sign that they are MAGA. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4665 "2023-10-08T18:39:11Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Besides, between four court cases, and campaigning, and holding the rallies that feed your ego, where will you find the time to be Speaker? He’d be the first ever Texter of the House. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > He has underlings to do the work, of course. That, too. Someone would have to translate all the Trumpisms into English, or at least make an attempt. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4666 "2023-10-08T19:41:05Z")
As a Democrat who often flies the US flag, I absolutely refuse to cede what ought to be a symbol of pride, patriotism and national unity to the Cult of Trump or to _any_ partisan subgroup. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4667 "2023-10-08T21:01:41Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > That’s in case you forget what fucking country you’re in. Some people need reminding. Apparently often. A lot of people need to fly a lot of flags to show that they love their country, because looking at their words and their actions you certainly couldn’t tell any other way. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4668 "2023-10-08T22:42:42Z")
I fly a flag on my front porch every day. What is my persuasion? ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4669 "2023-10-08T23:17:44Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > What is my persuasion? No idea. Let me know when you start flying 20 or 30. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4670 "2023-10-09T01:36:00Z")
Yes, flags should be flown by patriots and not those who want to overthrow the government or elect someone who tried to do so. I will sometimes use patriotic symbols because I think America is already pretty good without having to hate minorities or butcher education or take away freedoms like MAGA folks want. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4671 "2023-10-09T03:03:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > believe you jumped to conclusions. American flags _per se_ not automatically considered a sign of trump/MAGA support. I hate to think the MAGAts have co-opted the flag and now own it. In fact, I don’t believe they have. The American flag is still the flag of the whole country. Yet, somehow, they managed to, from the lead of their _Führer_, to believe and shout it represents the military and any attack on the flag is thus an actual attack on the military. It’s simply not possible to have a rational discussion with people who go down a path like that (or any of the other paths they’re going down at the behest of Tan the Conman, for that matter). > [@Atamasama](#): > > Yes, flags should be flown by patriots and not those who want to overthrow the government or elect someone who tried to do so. During the previous insurrection (the Biggest, nobody’d ever heard of such a big insurrection before that one, they told me, with tears in their eyes…) in the 1860s, the insurrectionists had the good sense to make their own flag and use that instead of the one used by the actual patriots preserving the country. So, to me, those who, in the 2020s, flap that insurrection’s flag proudly are conveniently telling all and sundry their position: they support treason. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I will sometimes use patriotic symbols because I think America is already pretty good without having to hate minorities or butcher education or take away freedoms like MAGA folks want. Exactly right. That’s my #1 problem with that bullshit expression, _Make America Great Again_. It wasn’t not great before the magatoflatearthers started bitching about it. If anything, they’re trying to make it not great. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4672 "2023-10-09T03:22:02Z")
Wow. Tan the Conman weighs 😃 in on the lawfully and legitimately elected President of the United States going without a shirt at the beach: [“I have a much better body than him.”](https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1710743708511912088) Oddly enough, the only thing that’s making me wonder now is how many Mickey Dee’s hamberders ol’ Tan has consumed in his life. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4673 "2023-10-09T03:43:53Z")
Seriously, is the election now supposed to be some kind of beauty contest? First of all I don’t vote for the “prettiest” candidate. Second of all trump is as far from pretty as you can get. I didn’t vote for Biden for his good looks. Biden is an old man who doesn’t look too bad for his age. trump looks bloated and weird because of all the primping he does. This of course is all beside the point as policy, ethics, and integrity are the the things that count. trump has none of that he is shallow, hateful, and vain. I guess if “beauty” means anything here, trump’s intrinsic uglyness is reflected in his appearance. What a shallow waste of oxygen. 😠 ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4674 "2023-10-09T13:29:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Tan the Conman weighs 😃 in on the lawfully and legitimately elected President of the United States going without a shirt at the beach: [“I have a much better body than him.”](https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1710743708511912088) We’ll take your word for it! (This one time). 🙈 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4675 "2023-10-09T14:29:09Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wow. Tan the Conman weighs 😃 in on the lawfully and legitimately elected President of the United States going without a shirt at the beach: [“I have a much better body than him.”](https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1710743708511912088) Keith Olbermann had the best response to this (paraphrased a bit): Sure he does. It’s buried near the first tee. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4676 "2023-10-09T19:19:51Z")
I’m surprised it took as long as it did to blame the Hamas attack on Biden. > **[Watch: Trump gleefully dances off New Hampshire stage after addressing Israel...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-dances-israel/)** > > Former President Donald Trump appeared to be in a good mood on Monday, dancing his way across a New Hampshire stage before addressing the crowd about the terror attacks that struck Israel. > During a speech in Wolfeboro, NH, Trump acknowledged the... ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4677 "2023-10-09T20:04:14Z")
So if Trump loses AGAIN in 2024, what are the chances his MAGA followers will accept defeat gracefully this time? Or is it going to be even worse? If Biden loses, do Dems have the same right to storm the Capitol that Repubs did? In other words, will there ever be unity in the USA again? Or is that what Trump ultimately took away? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4678 "2023-10-09T20:30:14Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > So if Trump loses AGAIN in 2024, what are the chances his MAGA followers will accept defeat gracefully this time? Or is it going to be even worse? Pure speculation on my part: I think he finally loses a substantial portion of his cult. Sure, there will still be lots who would follow him over a cliff. But I think three elections in a row where he can’t get most of the vote will be enough for people longing for an invincible strongman. And, yes, he will again claim the election was rigged. But I believe a substantial portion of the true believers know full well that he lost, and simply don’t care as long as they can make the libs cry. Anyway, I think a near-death, two-time loser starts to smell a bit, even to the deplorable tribe. “Stop the steal!” “Yeah, I’m gonna sit this one out. This program is getting boring.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4679 "2023-10-09T20:44:06Z")
I dunno. The GOP seems to have a boundless appetite for this terrible “reality” show. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4680 "2023-10-09T20:57:24Z")
Well, I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if we have to endure “Stop the Steal, Part 2.” But I think even Trump starts to lose his strongman luster after enough losing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=233) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=235)