# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 238
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4741 "2023-10-12T17:05:27Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > [The Ramblin’ Man](https://www.yahoo.com/news/netanyahu-let-us-down-trump-033530748.html) spends a couple of hours blathering and manages to call Hezbolla “very smart”. He also insults PM Netanyahu. Oh, and he’s also now warning that World War III, not World War II, is imminent. > > Shut the fuck up, Donnie. You’re out of your depth. Bonus points for the _Lebowski_ quotation. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4742 "2023-10-12T17:21:46Z")
I am the walrus. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4743 "2023-10-12T20:30:35Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > fercryingoutloud, don’t get snockered by the fifth inning, okay? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/El6w2BjE0Ig/hqdefault.jpg "Softball rules - The Simpsons") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El6w2BjE0Ig) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4744 "2023-10-13T15:32:23Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > When their kids or grandkids ask them how anyone could have fallen for Trump’s obvious con They might raise their kids to revere Trump. Proverbs 22:6 “ Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4745 "2023-10-13T15:55:58Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I don’t think Netanyahu is going to be real pleased with those comments. Yes, as usual Trump tried to make the Hamas attack all about himself, which is not going to go over well with Israel, Biden’s speech was apparently very well received. So I think there is a good chance that Biden might replace Trump as the Israeli favorite. We’ll know precisely point when that happens when Trump’s tweets start being full on antisemitic. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4746 "2023-10-13T16:06:23Z")
I’m not sure there’s going to be a clear demarcation line. Don’t forget Ivanka married into a Jewish family and he’s already got a long history of antisemitic tweets ranging from problematic to vile He might go full-on anti-Israel or anti-Netanyahu, though, which, in his near constant addled state could easily turn antisemitic by association, because that’s just the way his dysfunction works ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4747 "2023-10-13T17:29:44Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > They might raise their kids to revere Trump. Proverbs 22:6 “ Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it.” I’m either an optimist or a fool. I’m holding out hope that things will improve and whatever hold Trump has on his followers will fade once he’s either dead or imprisoned. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4748 "2023-10-13T17:47:50Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’m either an optimist or a fool. I’m holding out hope that things will improve and whatever hold Trump has on his followers will fade once he’s either dead or imprisoned. I’m less optimistic. I believe they will grumble for years, and crawl back under their rocks. All while brainwashing their spawn to rise again. They have been developing since the dawn of man. It is VERY tribal. Many don’t want to think for themselves. Many of us do. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4749 "2023-10-13T18:10:26Z")
There’s reason for the pessimism. The last time we as a nation were quite so nativist/racist and played with fascism, it took WWII for us to back away from it for a couple generations. A world spanning war resulting in tens of millions of direct deaths is not exactly a great precedent ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4750 "2023-10-13T19:35:42Z")
> [@solost](#): > > trump is meining some increasingly kampfy sources for his rhetoric lately. You, on the other hand, have been mining for gold, and finding it. Lovely sentence, pure gold. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4751 "2023-10-13T19:49:38Z")
Thanks, **bobot**! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4752 "2023-10-13T21:17:31Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’m either an optimist or a fool. I’m holding out hope that things will improve and whatever hold Trump has on his followers will fade once he’s either dead or imprisoned. My fear is that if he’s sentenced to prison, the ensuing riots by the magatoflatearthers will make January 6, 2021 look like a little kid’s game of playing gunslinger. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4753 "2023-10-13T21:23:23Z")
I don’t think so. Those riots were caused by Trump. He won’t be able to stand in front of crowds to whip them into a frenzy when he’s behind bars, and there isn’t anyone else in his orbit capable of taking his place in that role. He has that fairly unique ability. Take him out of the equation, and you won’t get more than a lot of whining and a few lone nutcases. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4754 "2023-10-13T21:33:59Z")
Agreed. And here’s hoping! ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4755 "2023-10-13T21:38:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > My fear is that if he’s sentenced to prison, the ensuing riots by the magatoflatearthers will make January 6, 2021 look like a little kid’s game of playing gunslinger. I share your concerns. Practically speaking, it’s relatively easy for me to blend in with MAGA types here in Arkansas, so as long as I keep my mouth shut. But I’m working on the assumption there will be violence. If I’m wrong, great. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4756 "2023-10-13T22:02:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think so. Those riots were caused by Trump. He won’t be able to stand in front of crowds to whip them into a frenzy when he’s behind bars, and there isn’t anyone else in his orbit capable of taking his place in that role. > > He has that fairly unique ability. Take him out of the equation, and you won’t get more than a lot of whining and a few lone nutcases. & > [@Odesio](#): > > I share your concerns. Practically speaking, it’s relatively easy for me to blend in with MAGA types here in Arkansas, so as long as I keep my mouth shut. But I’m working on the assumption there will be violence. If I’m wrong, great. I doubt he’ll be immediately sentenced and hauled off to prison, as much as I would love that instant gratification. He’ll be out on bond pending sentencing and, of course, appeal. He’ll go out and stir the shit. Sadly, I don’t think he’ll even need to do that. His minions are already primed for it. And we already know who their targets will be. I’d hate to be a member of one of the minorities those idiots despise when the gavel comes down. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4757 "2023-10-13T22:19:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Sadly, I don’t think he’ll even need to do that. His minions are already primed for it. And I don’t think Y’all Qaeda will get off their whiny asses unless someone goes through a lot of elaborate coordination to do so, which is what happened on January 6. Could something like that happen? Sure. But I would hope that the authorities would be better prepared next time. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4758 "2023-10-13T23:24:07Z")
It’s not that the authorities were not prepared, it’s that they were desperately trying to avoid a left vs. right showdown, which would have played right into Trump’s plans. The Jan 6 crowd didn’t catch anyone by surprise. It was expected. The greater fear, though, was a confrontation like what occurred at the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Va. That was what Trump was hoping for and what he was holding the DC National Guard (NG) back for when they were needed. My belief is that if there had been a significant build-up of security around the Capitol, it would have been difficult to keep the left-wing protesters away. They would have felt their presence was needed, to protect the Nation. If there had been any significant resistance to the Jan 6 rioters, Trump would have called in the DC NG and declared martial law. There was a whole lot of organization behind the Jan 6 riots, and a lot of counter-planning on the left. IMHO, the counter-planning came out on top. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4759 "2023-10-13T23:42:22Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Practically speaking, it’s relatively easy for me to blend in with MAGA types here in Arkansas, so as long as I keep my mouth shut. My experience with most Tighty-Righties (and Fundie Christians and racists) is that they’ve spent so much time in their bubble that they assume everyone agrees with them. So if you want to keep your head down and watch the game at your local sports bar, you can. And if someone insists on sharing their political views with you and you want to immediately change the subject? Just know who to complain about (in Seattle, it’s Russell Wilson. In Packer Country, it’s Aaron Rodgers). ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4760 "2023-10-14T02:34:10Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Just know who to complain about (in Seattle, it’s Russell Wilson Wouldn’t that now be Denver/Boulder/Colorado Springs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=237) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=239)