# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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More turpitude. More treason. More stupidity. More “look at me!!!”

> **[As The GOP Slams Biden On Israel, No One Mentions Trump's Dangerous Intel Leak](https://news.yahoo.com/gop-slams-biden-israel-no-232558214.html)**
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> Republicans are piling on Joe Biden about a prisoner swap with Iran and the release of $6 billion of Iran’s money, but they won’t talk about Trump’s 2017 Oval Office leak.

"…Less than four months into his term, the coup-attempting former president was bragging to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador Sergei Kislyak during their Oval Office visit about the quality of the briefings he was receiving, and as proof offered details about a secret Israeli intelligence operation into Syria.

Israeli intelligence officials were incensed upon learning of the leak because, given Russia’s close ties to Iran and Syria, they had to assume that their local source for the information had been compromised and possibly killed, according to Israeli press accounts at the time.

“If indeed Trump, out of innocence or ignorance, leaked information to the Russians, then there is a real danger to sources that it took years to acquire, and to our working methods,” an Israeli intelligence source [told](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/opinion/trump-israel-russia-intelligence.html) journalist Ronen Bergman…"

"…The May 10, 2017, White House meeting was covered by Russian media, but not American media, and began with Trump telling Lavrov and Kislayak that he had just fired FBI Director James Comey over the agency’s investigation into his contacts with their country ahead of his 2016 election. The Washington Post, which first reported on the incident, quoted an administration official who said that Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

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Some of us remembered it.

> [@How has the disgraced former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/942178/4772):
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> Today, this article appeared in the New York Times (gift link): I immediately remembered Trump sharing intelligence with Russian oligarchs in the Oval Office early in his presidency that compromised Israel. Obviously this is highly speculative on my part, but it’s possible that between this and the intelligence Trump took with him to Mar-A-Lago and that he might have shared with some of his favorite buddies, this entire ghastly situation in Gaza was caused in part by his actions. And that r…

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/4803 "2023-10-17T22:58:13Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> I haven’t seen this mentioned. “Former President Donald Trump is arguing to a judge in Colorado that he was not required to “support” the Constitution as president”

“Preserve, protect and defend, fine, whatever. But ‘support’? Fuck that!”

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Ring Of Fire roasts his lawyers for even suggesting such idiotic BS.  
[https://youtu.be/MZO5X7dIa2E?t=95](https://youtu.be/MZO5X7dIa2E?t=95)

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@dougrb](#):
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> > I haven’t seen this mentioned. “Former President Donald Trump is arguing to a judge in Colorado that he was not required to “support” the Constitution as president”
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> “Preserve, protect and defend, fine, whatever. But ‘support’? Fuck that!”

“He didn’t commit treason. And if he did, I didn’t break the law. And if he did break the law, that law is unconstitutional, because that amendment doesn’t apply to him.”

I wonder what malarkey they’ll use for the next part of that nonsense: “…and if it does apply to him…”

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I wonder what malarkey

I knew Joe was on here before Truth Social.

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And that right there, folks, is why (a) I chose that term instead of using _bullshit_, and (b) love this place!

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I wonder what malarkey they’ll use for the next part of that nonsense: “…and if it does apply to him…”

And if it does apply to him, it didn’t at the time. And if it did, it no longer does.

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Much like the North and Pepperidge Farm. And Baskin Robbins.

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> [@](#):
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> # Donald Trump Shares Link Revealing Letitia James’ Address While Raging Against Her
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> The former president, who is under a gag order in his New York financial fraud trial, appeared to contribute to the doxxing of the state attorney general.
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> Former President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Thursday [shared a link](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111247592804913306) listing the home address of New York Attorney General [Letitia James](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/letitia-james) while accusing her of committing a “miscarriage of justice.”

I’m reminded of the way Hannibal Lecter used code to send a message from his prison cell telling serial murderer Buffalo Bill Will Graham’s address. (In the movie **Manhunter** and maybe also in **Red Dragon** )

Lecter supports, Trump, you know. Trump told us

> **[Trump Shows Love To 'Hannibal Lecter' In Killer Blunder At Iowa Rally](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hannibal-lecter_n_65222027e4b09f4b8d405989)**
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> Trump claimed "The Silence of the Lambs" killer threw his support behind him in an awkward flub on Saturday.

> **[Donald Trump Shares Link Revealing Letitia James' Address While Raging...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-letitia-james-address_n_652fd566e4b0da897ab60bce)**
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> The former president, who is under a gag order in his New York financial fraud trial, appeared to contribute to the doxxing of the state attorney general.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> (In the movie **Manhunter** and maybe also in **Red Dragon** )

A plot point in both.

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> A plot point in both.

I read the book, but it’s been a long time since I saw Red Dragon, and wasn’t sure if they used it in that version.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’m reminded of the way Hannibal Lecter used code to send a message from his prison cell telling serial murderer Buffalo Bill Will Graham’s address. (In the movie **Manhunter** and maybe also in **Red Dragon** )

Correction: Lecter sent serial murderer **Francis Dolarhyde** to kill Graham in both movies (both based on the novel _Red Dragon_). Buffalo Bill was in _The Silence of the Lambs_.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> **Francis Dolarhyde**

I haven’t read the book in decades but I think his nickname was “The Tooth Fairy”.

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He had a thing for pigs if memory serves.

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I think pigs was the one after _Silence Of The Lambs_. Not as good, according to reviews. Some authors need to learn when to put down the pen on a character.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > **Francis Dolarhyde**
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> I haven’t read the book in decades but I think his nickname was “The Tooth Fairy”.

You are correct.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I think pigs was the one after _Silence Of The Lambs_.

Also correct – the character in question being Mason Verger.

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IIRC, Harris did not want to write another book and made it as unappealing as possible so they wouldn’t ask again.

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And yet, he did write another: _Hannibal Rising_. It’s a prequel about his youth.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> yet, he did write another: _Hannibal Rising_.

“Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in again!”

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