# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 261
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5201 "2023-11-30T23:20:53Z")
> [@Hurrilon](#): > > I read through the entire thread Weird flex, but okay. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5202 "2023-12-01T00:45:32Z")
From that _Telegraph_ article link (my bold) in @Johnny_L.A’s post: > … > Donald Trump **has been accused** of using his company’s funds to pay his tax and [legal bills](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/25/what-next-donald-trump-indictment-charges-arrest/), in breach of a court ruling that requires him to notify a financial auditor before withdrawing cash. > > [The former president](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/donald-trump/) **reportedly** moved $40 million (£31.5 million) from the Trump Organisation into a personal bank account in three cash transfers across ten months of financial statements, The Daily Beast reported. > … Note the use of the words “has been accused” [the passive voice hides sources rather than revealing them] and “reportedly.” What is/are the source/s of this information? I believe this is all lies, and trumpy never moved one thin dime from one account to another. I don’t believe he possesses any cash to speak of. This is all fake news planted in the press to buttress (emphasis on **butt** ) his image as a billionaire. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5203 "2023-12-01T01:03:22Z")
Here’s the letter. > **[452564\_2022\_people\_of\_the\_state\_of\_v\_people\_of\_the\_state\_of\_letter\_\_\_correspond\_1641\_ocr.pdf](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24178374/452564_2022_people_of_the_state_of_v_people_of_the_state_of_letter___correspond_1641_ocr.pdf)** > > 2.05 MB ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5204 "2023-12-01T17:54:06Z")
> [@Hurrilon](#): > > I’m still waiting for someone, other than me, to post something rational at all. I’m assuming you have not actually read Mr. Trump’s Thanksgiving message to the nation. Thanksgiving. A time when families come together and express thanks for the good things in their lives and the bountiful harvest that they enjoy. A time of togetherness. Here is Trump’s message. I wonder if you can tell us what you like about it, and how it expresses the True Meaning of Thanksgiving for the nation. > “Happy Thanksgiving to ALL, including the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia ‘Peekaboo’ James, who has let Murder & Violence Crime FLOURISH, & Businesses FLEE; the Radical Left Trump Hating Judge, a ‘Psycho,’ [Arthur Engoron,](https://thehill.com/people/arthur-engoron/) who Criminally Defrauded the State of New York, & ME, by purposely Valuing my Assets at a ‘tiny’ Fraction of what they are really worth in order to convict me of Fraud before even a Trial, or seeing any PROOF, & used his Politically Biased & Corrupt Campaign Finance Violator, Chief Clerk Alison Greenfield, to sit by his side on the ‘Bench’ & tell him what to do,” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5205 "2023-12-01T17:59:53Z")
> [@Hurrilon](#): > > I’m still waiting for someone, other than me, to post something rational at all. I read through the entire thread Christmas. A time when Christians celebrate the birth of Christ over 2000 years ago, a religious and for some, sacred holiday. Even for the secular, it is a time when families join together to give gifts and enjoy each other’s company. Here is Trump’s 2022 Christmas message to the nation. I wonder if you could tell us what you find in this message that is inspirational for you, related to the message of Christmas, or actually rational: > Merry Christmas to EVERYONE, including the Radical Left Marxists that are trying to destroy our Country, the Federal Bureau of Investigation that is illegally coercing & paying Social and LameStream Media to push for a mentally disabled Democrat over the Brilliant, Clairvoyant, and USA LOVING Donald J. Trump, and, of course, The Department of Injustice, which appointed a Special “Prosecutor” who, together with his wife and family, HATES “Trump” more than any other person on earth. LOVE TO ALL! ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5206 "2023-12-01T19:51:05Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > If Trump personally told you that his company would formulate custom vitamins for you if you sent him a bag of your pee, would you send him $139.95 and a bag of your pee? “What you’re buying here are the ingredients for very expensive urine” – Sheldon Cooper ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5207 "2023-12-01T22:43:36Z")
> [@Hurrilon](#): > > I read through the entire thread and all I can say is that the amount of TDS being displayed by your folks is staggering, to say the least. In addition to using a warmed-over Limbaughism, a phrase construction so old\* I myself rolled my eyes when El-Rushbo changed CDS (Clinton Derangement Syndrome) to BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome), I’m just going to call you a liar for claiming to have read over 5,200 posts in this thread alone. Run along, child, this is where the people who can read congregate. \*30 years and counting! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5208 "2023-12-01T22:47:46Z")
Whenever I see “TDS,” it takes me a minute to work out they’re not talking about The Daily Show. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5209 "2023-12-01T22:59:58Z")
Man quotes a guy who has been dead two years, accuses others of being propagandized, film at 11. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5210 "2023-12-02T00:37:30Z")
> [@Hurrilon](#): > > My rationalization? I’m still waiting for someone, other than me, to post something rational at all. I read through the entire thread and all I can say is that the amount of TDS being displayed by your folks is staggering, to say the least. In another thread, you recommend reading a court case from Alberta > [@](#): > > **Idle Thoughts** , if you have time on your hands, read the _Meads_ decision from the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench. More than you will likely ever need to know about the SovCits. > > [https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html](https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html) > > Being an old retired guy, I read it. Kudos to that judge - brilliant! That’s an odd reference for a MAGA Republican. But maybe not so strange for a Canadian from that region. Nah….that’s just crazy. We’d never attract a MAGA loving Canadian on these boards. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5211 "2023-12-02T08:11:29Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5212 "2023-12-02T14:56:48Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > MAGAs have it backwards (no surprise there) the only people with “TDS” are Trump supporters. I know- when I first started hearing the term, it took me a little bit to wrap my head around the fact that “trump derangement syndrome” was _ **not** _ supposed to apply to the mindset of trump supporters. It seems like such a perfect description of such. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5213 "2023-12-02T15:40:49Z")
Trumpy never disappoints and never surprises. 🙄 > **[With gag order reinstated, Trump shifts attacks to judge’s wife](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/12/1/2209048/-With-gag-order-reinstated-Trump-shifts-attacks-to-judge-s-wife?pm_campaign=blog&pm_medium=rss&pm_source=)** > > On Thursday, the Supreme Court of the State of New York reinstated a narrow gag order against Donald Trump that prohibits him from making statements about court staff. The order was originally put ... > On Thursday, the Supreme Court of the State of New York[reinstated a narrow gag order](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24178715-ny-appeals-court-gag-order-ruling) against Donald Trump that prohibits him from making statements about court staff. The order was originally put in place by Judge Arthur Engoron after Trump[repeatedly attacked](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/10/3/2197106/-Trump-s-baseless-attack-on-law-clerk-shows-why-he-should-be-under-a-full-gag-order) law clerk Allison Greenfield, including falsely claiming that she was the “girlfriend” of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Trump’s statements have been tied to multiple [threats](https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/politics/trump-gag-order-threats-judge-clerk/index.html) on the life of both Greenfield and Engoron. > > In response, Trump posted a series of false claims about Engoron’s wife, using a widely debunked series of images posted by[conspiracy theorist](https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattnovak/2023/11/22/no-evidence-explosion-at-us-canada-border-targeted-macys-thanksgiving-parade/?sh=1b6220c13057) Laura Loomer. Trump also reposted the images along with statements sure to generate threats against Engoron’s wife and family. > > Not only is this vivid confirmation that Trump is a low-life POS, it’s also an obvious threat aimed at every prosecutor, judge, or other member of the justice system who tries to hold him to account for his crimes. > … ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5214 "2023-12-02T16:49:37Z")
> [@solost](#): > > But I _ **still** _ cannot for the life of me understand how even the most venal, hate-filled, anti-Democratic American can read that Thanksgiving screed and not, at least in the back of their mind, think “wow, he is kinda nutballs You’ll want to see this — two interviews with ordinary Hispanic Americans who are basically Trumpy but might (yeah, right) vote for a Democrat if it isn’t the old, feeble Biden. One of them says several times that Trump’s one negative attribute is that he doesn’t say things nicely — that he needs to tone down his speech mannerisms, to at least pretend to appear decent. In other words, they’ll rationalize anything he says as “Trump being Trump,” while acknowledging it’s not great. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1MBENwfVnhA/maxresdefault.jpg "What these swing voters have to say about the 2024 election | FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MBENwfVnhA) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5215 "2023-12-03T00:22:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > In response, Trump posted a series of false claims about Engoron’s wife, Does anyone else have this kind of shameful, sick desire to see this escalate in a tit-for-tat manner, the gag order being gradually expanded, and Trump always moving one step past it, just to see how far afield and how petty he can get? "Today, in response to the gag order banning Trump from mentioning the judge’s sister’s boyfriend’s best friend’s mom’s housekeeper, Donald Trump Xcreted, “This case is clear a BIASED Fraud as seen when the judge’s sister’s boyfriend’s best friend’s mom’s housekeeper’s grandson tweeted, “Man, that Trump guy is something else, eh, Grandma?”” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5216 "2023-12-03T02:00:26Z")
As a hypothetical that’s worth a chuckle, yeh. In the real world, someone’s going to get killed. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5217 "2023-12-03T02:59:22Z")
Tan the Conman’s blather has _already_ gotten people killed. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5218 "2023-12-03T10:06:18Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Does anyone else have this kind of shameful, sick desire to see this escalate in a tit-for-tat manner, the gag order being gradually expanded, and Trump always moving one step past it, just to see how far afield and how petty he can get? Only until he attack’s Engoron’s father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5219 "2023-12-03T14:00:54Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Does anyone else have this kind of shameful, sick desire to see this escalate in a tit-for-tat manner I thought you meant like this. “Former porn actress, gold digger and first ‘lady’ might be a Russian spy. Don’t know for sure yet, but a lot of people are saying that.” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5220 "2023-12-03T15:01:32Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I thought you meant like this. “Former porn actress, gold digger and first ‘lady’ might be a Russian spy. Don’t know for sure yet, but a lot of people are saying that.” I endorse that. I might swap the sentences though, to match what Trump twooths: ‘A lot of people are saying that former porn actress, gold digger and First “Lady” might be a Russian spy.’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=260) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=262)