# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 278
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5541 "2024-01-11T15:03:32Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > But I’m the best driver in the world. ‘I’m an excellent driver.’ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5542 "2024-01-11T15:40:37Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > (his mincing walk down ramps and the odd 2 handed water bottle thing) And being directed to the Limo that he was supposed to ride in. I suppose it’s the one with the flags on it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5543 "2024-01-11T15:58:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > ‘I’m an excellent driver.’ After I drive, I drive right up on the green to putt. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5544 "2024-01-11T16:31:20Z")
As I understand it, once you’ve been president, you never drive again unless you reject Secret Service protection. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5545 "2024-01-11T17:20:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > Serious question, has Trump ever driven a car? > > If that’s a serious question the answer is yes. I even posted a video on the SDMB filming him driving, prior to being POTUS. > > I’ll repost it: > > [https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z1E3WKTblNM](https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z1E3WKTblNM) > > And here’s a picture of an old driver’s license. > > [https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/dda65cf/2147483647/strip/true/crop/779x423+0+0/resize/630x342!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F6d%2Fe3%2Fbdd4948d4427bd72d6d9ad68370c%2Ftrump-license-screenshot.jpg](https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/dda65cf/2147483647/strip/true/crop/779x423+0+0/resize/630x342!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F6d%2Fe3%2Fbdd4948d4427bd72d6d9ad68370c%2Ftrump-license-screenshot.jpg) > > So the answer is yes. One thing I used to love about my NY driver’s license is that once you get photographed they let you keep using the same photo every time you renew. My NY license has a great photo of me that was taken about thirty years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5546 "2024-01-11T17:32:55Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > As I understand it, once you’ve been president, you never drive again unless you reject Secret Service protection. You _may_ drive, but you won’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5547 "2024-01-11T17:35:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > You _may_ drive, but you won’t have to. I’m not sure that what @BlankSlate wrote was in error. If you are under Secret Service protection, perhaps they won’t let you drive. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5548 "2024-01-11T17:42:29Z")
Was very cool that Seinfeld brought that Corvette to the White House and Obama drove it. Only around the grounds though. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5549 "2024-01-11T17:44:23Z")
A President, or an ex-President, may disregard Secret Service advice if he wishes to: [Is the Secret Service responsible for keeping the president from getting drunk? - The Straight Dope](https://www.straightdope.com/21344000/is-the-secret-service-responsible-for-keeping-the-president-from-getting-drunk) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5550 "2024-01-11T18:15:55Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > As I understand it, once you’ve been president, you never drive again unless you reject Secret Service protection. Does that mean Biden may never again drive his 'bitchin Camaro? [![](https://i.insider.com/4d42ef344bd7c83708310000?width=300&format=jpeg&auto=webp) ](https://i.insider.com/4d42ef344bd7c83708310000?width=300&format=jpeg&auto=webp) And yes, I know that isn’t a Camaro. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5551 "2024-01-11T19:40:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > A President, or an ex-President, may disregard Secret Service advice if he wishes to: Of course, and the caveat “unless you reject Secret Service protection” was given. The question is, are the Secret Service prepared to accept any behavior from an ex-President and just continue to protect them as best they can? Or do they stipulate that the ex-President must follow their direction as a condition of protection. For the President, the former would obviously apply, but in the case of an ex-President, it’s not obvious to me that the SS should necessarily be willing to place their own agents in unnecessary danger to accommodate the whims of the protectee. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5552 "2024-01-11T19:52:37Z")
The SS wouldn’t let Trump go up to the capitol building on Jan 6. I’m sure they thought it was too dangerous for him (or themselves!) even though he said “they’re my people.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5553 "2024-01-11T20:01:22Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > That said, he’s pushing 80 now vs pushing 70 before he was POTUS, and there’s a lot of people his age who just don’t drive themselves, especially if they have somebody else who can do it for them There’s also the fact that former presidents aren’t allowed to drive on public roads. [Cite (for what it’s worth)](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/28/presidents-arent-allowed-to-drive.html) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5554 "2024-01-11T20:04:35Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > I’m sure they thought it was too dangerous for him (or themselves!) even though he said “they’re my people.” There is official testimony on the record that they stopped him because they were concerned that it was too dangerous. I decided to do some searching about whether or not the Secret Service officially has the power to override the POTUS if it’s a safety issue, and I found this interesting article: > **['Between a rock and a hard place': Can the Secret Service say no to a president?](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rock-hard-place-secret-service-president/story?id=73431320)** > > 'Between a rock and a hard place' can the Secret Service say no to a President? Note that the article is from October 2020, months before the January 6 insurrection. There is one quote in the article that I think is relevant: > The retired agent who spoke to ABC News also pushed back on reports that the agents were taking their cues directly from the president. > > “The Secret Service has established protocols and procedures that are followed through a chain of command,” he said. “No agent should ever take it upon themselves to violate a protective procedure unless cleared by a supervisor, or if there was immediate danger of injury or death.” To me that’s saying that the Secret Service will not obey the POTUS (or anyone else under their protection) if they are told to do something that compromises safety. Only orders through the proper chain of command are obeyed, and that doesn’t include orders coming directly from the top itself. Which makes sense. If the Secret Service couldn’t protect a person from themselves, they wouldn’t be nearly as effective. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5555 "2024-01-11T20:47:54Z")
> [@](#): > > # Donald Trump Says He Knows Who’ll Be His Running Mate > > [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Wednesday told a [Fox News](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/fox-news) town hall that he knows who’ll be his running mate if he becomes the GOP nominee for the 2024 election. > > But the former president refused to name a name. > > “Well, I can’t tell you that really. I mean, I know who it’s going to be,” the four-times-indicted Republican front-runner told hosts Martha MacCallum and Bret Baier during the televised event in Des Moines, Iowa. > > “Can you give us a hint?” Baier asked. > > “We’ll do another show sometime,” replied Trump. This makes me think of an old Porky Pig cartoon: # I Know Something I Won’t Tell > [@](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuU4d7OxhkY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuU4d7OxhkY) > **[Trump Says He Knows Who’ll Be His Running Mate](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-running-mate-fox-news_n_659f9ff0e4b0712b12c3a774)** > > The Republican 2024 front-runner also said he’s open to “mending fences” with his primary rivals during a Fox News town hall. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5556 "2024-01-11T21:19:20Z")
It made me think of Dana Carvey’s Church Lady. “Hmmm, could it be… SATAN?” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5557 "2024-01-11T23:53:36Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > The SS wouldn’t let Trump go up to the capitol building on Jan 6. Sometimes I wish they had just said “sure”. Driven him there, and let him head on into the building to participate directly in the insurrection. It would have been ugly, but it would have been all over that day. And we would not have him to worry about now. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5558 "2024-01-11T23:55:02Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > [Trump Says He Knows Who’ll Be His Running Mate | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-running-mate-fox-news_n_659f9ff0e4b0712b12c3a774) In other words, Trump has not one fucking clue who his running mate will be. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5559 "2024-01-11T23:58:19Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Driven him there, and let him head on into the building to participate directly in the insurrection. It would have been ugly, but it would have been all over that day. What would the other insurrectionists do? Carry him crowd surfing style, and throw him through a window? Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5560 "2024-01-12T00:16:33Z")
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