# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 280
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5581 "2024-01-12T22:11:21Z")
Well, he did (and will) “make many calls and have many meetings.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5582 "2024-01-12T22:23:40Z")
> [@Dandan](#): > > (actually I’ve met very few girls/whatever called Buck) I didn’t bother reporting my pronouns given that my name and avatar are strongly presenting as male 🧔‍♂️, but for the record I do indeed identify as he/him/his. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5583 "2024-01-12T23:10:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, he said he wouldn’t have time for retribution. You know, like when he said he wouldn’t have time for golf. Exactly right. He said before the 2016 election that he wouldn’t have time for golf. And of course we know that he set a record than can never be beaten (except by another Trump four years, of course) for ‘number of days playing golf.’ The fact that he’s ever-so-slightly backing off the Retribution theme is surprising, though. I can see pretending that he will be “too busy” for just about anything, because the image of the Busy President is one that his fans would love. But they’d also love the image of the Vengeful President. Most of them equate vindictiveness with strength—there’s no nuance involved. For them, a vicious bully = A Strong Man. So I’m very curious about this new turn. Why is he disavowing something his fans love? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5584 "2024-01-12T23:18:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Why is he disavowing something his fans love? Because His flock can see the ‘Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, “Say no _more!_”’ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5585 "2024-01-12T23:24:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Because His flock can see the ‘Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, “Say no _more!_”’ Yeah, that’s probably it. He’s disavowing non-stop brutal revenge because he knows the MAGAts are only 25-30% of the electorate–he needs the remaining ‘normal Republicans’ to win the right number of states. And ‘normal Republicans’ are uneasy with the ‘all payback all the time’ concept. It’s a preview of Trump’s semi-pivot to the general after he wins the primary: he still won’t talk like a decent person (because he has no idea how to do that). But he’ll avoid voicing the most overt expressions of his sociopathy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5586 "2024-01-12T23:29:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s a preview of Trump’s semi-pivot to the general after he wins the primary: he still won’t talk like a decent person (because he has no idea how to do that). But he’ll avoid voicing the most overt expressions of his sociopathy. I think we saw something like that in 2016, when many of his most incendiary remarks (like the comment about all the rapists coming from Mexico) happened when he was talking to the base in the primaries. He didn’t pivot to talking like a normal person for the general election, but he did tone it down a bit. Thought by “toning it down a bit”, that means on a scale of 1-10 as far as comments being out of line, he’s going from a 15 to a 12. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5587 "2024-01-12T23:32:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Thought by “toning it down a bit”, that means on a scale of 1-10 as far as comments being out of line, he’s going from a 15 to a 12. Yeah. The news organizations will remain happy with the ratings they get covering Trump’s general election persona–he will remain “OMG” for everyone but the MAGAts. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5588 "2024-01-13T00:09:22Z")
Trump will be very busy. Here’s what’s on his schedule: [![](https://i.etsystatic.com/24278258/r/il/6d42c7/5174474503/il_1140xN.5174474503_fd28.jpg) ](https://i.etsystatic.com/24278258/r/il/6d42c7/5174474503/il_1140xN.5174474503_fd28.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5589 "2024-01-13T01:25:24Z")
Trump and the GOP will busy trying to dismantle democracy. Then can get down to the retribution. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5590 "2024-01-13T01:29:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Why is he disavowing something his fans love? He’s not really. He is just coming at it from a different angle right now - presidential immunity. He says if he is not given immunity, every ex-president from this point forward will be indicted for no reason at all, just like he has been. Because, of course, that’s only fair. > [@](#): > > IF IMMUNITY IS NOT GRANTED TO A PRESIDENT, EVERY PRESIDENT THAT LEAVES OFFICE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY INDICTED BY THE OPPOSING PARTY…WITHOUT IMMUNITY THEY WOULD BE UNDER SIEGE BY RADICAL, OUT OF CONTROL PROSECUTORS, MUCH LIKE I AM Well, really only if they are Democrats. > [@](#): > > WITHOUT COMPLETE IMMUNITY, A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROPERLY FUNCTION! And yet, somehow, they have managed for 250 years. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5591 "2024-01-13T02:01:44Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@Dandan](#): > > > > (actually I’ve met very few girls/whatever called Buck) > > I didn’t bother reporting my pronouns given that my name and avatar are strongly presenting as male 🧔‍♂️, but for the record I do indeed identify as he/him/his. Never doubted it, Buck. That riff was for …well, nevermind. I’ll have to take a look at the Dope parameters - I was unaware that one could declare for a team. Great idea. Perhaps I’ll make my avatar a scarlet…um…“M”! Thanks, Dan ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5592 "2024-01-13T02:05:04Z")
> [@Dandan](#): > > (actually I’ve met very few girls/whatever called Buck) Come to think of it, Buck Buchowski was the only girl I ever dated who didn’t have an underbite… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5593 "2024-01-13T06:14:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > Why is he disavowing something his fans love? > > Because His flock can see the ‘Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, “Say no _more!_”’ Exactly like they did when he finally (supposedly honestly) admitted Presdient Obama was, in fact, born in the United States of America. His rabble still persist in spreading the birther nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5594 "2024-01-13T20:23:44Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > …And yet, somehow, they have managed for 250 years. Well, not quite 235 years yet, but I take your point. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5595 "2024-01-13T20:25:00Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Trump and the GOP will [be] busy trying to dismantle democracy. Then [they] can get down to the retribution. Setting priorities is an important part of governing, after all! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5596 "2024-01-13T22:50:49Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Well, really only if they are Democrats. True–IF there were to be any additional Presidents who are Democrats. If Trump gets in we can pretty much write off that possibility, I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5597 "2024-01-14T17:13:41Z")
A perv, a con artist, and a fascist walk into a bar. The bartender asks _"What’ll it be Mr Trump?_ ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5598 "2024-01-14T17:23:02Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He says if he is not given immunity, every ex-president from this point forward will be indicted for no reason at all, just like he has been. It’s a good thing Trump The Idiot got to the bottom of the immunity question _before_ he broke a bunch of laws! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5599 "2024-01-14T21:56:19Z")
> “If you’re sick as a dog, you say, darling — even if you vote and then pass away, it’s worth it." No, not a cult. Not at all. > **[Trump tells Iowans 'if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it'](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12962705/trump-iowans-caucus-president-vote-temperatures-weather.html)** > > As the state battles life-threatening cold before the crucial Monday vote, the former president told his supporters they can't 'sit at home'. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/5600 "2024-01-14T22:46:46Z")
I’ve just got to say that I love the phrasing in [this article:](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-to-iowans-even-if-you-die-voting-for-me-it-will-be-worth-it) > On Saturday, Trump thanked Gambino Crime Family mobster, informant, and serial liar **Sammy ‘the Bull’ Gravano** , who confessed to 19 murders and countless kidnappings, armed robberies, burglaries & 1000s of other felonies, for vouching for him, adding, “I hope Judges Engoron & Kaplan see this.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=279) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=281)