# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Why is he not already a walking fleshbag of cancer?

Because the Devil is real and he has the cure for cancer.

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Get out and vote for me if it kills you. Fucking piece of shit.

[“Even if you vote and pass away, it’s worth it”: Trump urges Iowans to vote sick in subzero temps (yahoo.com)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/even-vote-pass-away-worth-135724099.html)

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Trump: “I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU ONE LITTLE BIT, YOU WORTHLESS VOTING MEAT-BAGS!”

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Why is he not already a walking fleshbag of cancer?

That’s because he _is_ a cancer. Have you ever heard of a cancer having cancer?

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> Get out and vote for me if it kills you. Fucking piece of shit.

And they fucking voted for him. Like it or not, Trump knows his base.

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I guess it worked:

> **[Florida man facing 91 criminal counts wins Iowa caucuses](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/trump-wins-iowa-caucuses/)**
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> Donald Trump crushed his Republican rivals.

This tells me that Trump’s voters are very motivated and his republican opponents can’t get out the vote.

It wasn’t even close really.

As of this post:

Trump - 51.6%  
DeSantis - 20.9%  
Haley - 18.8%  
Ramaswamy - 7.7%

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DeSantis and Haley have spent all their time campaigning for second place and, surprising absolutely nobody, ended up basically tied for second place.

Maybe if they’d actually campaigned against Trump, the numbers would look a little different. Not a lot different, mind you, but I bet it would’ve been closer.

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Maybe if they’d actually campaigned against Trump, the numbers would look a little different. Not a lot different, mind you, but I bet it would’ve been closer.

If the bottom three became one candidate they’d have a chance. Ramaswamy is probably not going to hang in a lot longer but he can do damage till he drops out…he will likely use that as leverage to negotiate a nice spot in the the next administration if they win. I can’t see DeSantis giving up till the bitter end. His ego will allow nothing less. Will Haley take one for the team?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
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I don’t know, 48% of the Republicans who showed up in sub-zero weather wanted someone else for president. While not an encumbent, he is their most recent election winner, running for re-election. Yes, he wins whatever bragging rights come with the Iowa caucus, but what does it portend for the general election?

I think DeSantis is done, he put it all on red and hit 00. His voters move over to Nikki in New Hampshire. Then on to South Carolina, her home state.

I shoulda switched parties so i could vote for her. Rats.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I shoulda switched parties so i could vote for her.

The path to the Dark Side is a seductive one.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I think DeSantis is done, he put it all on red and hit 00.

He’s pretty much out of money so yeah.

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Aw, it was just some ratfuckery for the primary. Because of the disagreement between the DNC and the New Hampshire Democratic Party over the date of our primary, none of the votes in our primary will count in selecting the Democratic candidate. Might as well use my little vote to weaken the Orange Fucker a smidge.

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> **[Former president Donald Trump to visit the state, Arizona GOP announces](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2024/01/15/former-president-donald-trump-in-arizona/72236367007/)**
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> Trump, a frequent visitor to Arizona, will appear as part of the Arizona GOP Freedom Fest event Jan. 26 at Dream City Church in north Phoenix.

Do I really have to say why this is pissing me off? We have enough problems right now, we don’t really need the impeached rapist telling all the “good xians” to march on the capital again.

Thank the flying spaghetti monster that he won’t be in Prescott Valley again. That is probably because he stiffed the venues last time he visited and they remember these things.

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> Thank the flying spaghetti monster that he won’t be in Prescott Valley again. That is probably because he stiffed the venues last time he visited and they remember these things.

And yet he’s found another venue to stiff. Good luck with that, Dream City Church.

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As I was poking around, I learned the real reason donny picked that 3,600 seat church…it has an elevator so he doesn’t have to deal with stairs.

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:: Makes mental note to have elevator removed from our church ::

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> As I was poking around, I learned the real reason donny picked that 3,600 seat church…it has an elevator so he doesn’t have to deal with stairs.

ADA requires all two story public buildings to have an elevator I believe. Don’t know what qualifies.

Stairs are maybe not as scary as a ramp though for TFG. Elevator much preferred.

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Churches are private property. Religious organizations have no obligations to follow any ADA laws or requirements.

Both stairs and ramps involve require moving one’s body. Using an elevator takes no effort at all when one has the Secret Service to push the buttons.

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Right. Forgot about the public building angle.

I suspect SS are more like cowboys trying to get DJT moving in the correct direction.

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Here is some info:

> **[Religious Entities Under the Americans With Disabilities Act | ADA National...](https://adata.org/factsheet/religious-entities-under-americans-disabilities-act)**
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> (Printer-friendly PDF version | 307 KB) (Large Print PDF version | 284 KB) (Spanish Version) The purpose of this document is to explain when and how the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) applies

> ### Are religious entities covered by Title III of the ADA?
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> No, religious entities are completely exempt from Title III of the ADA. All of their facilities, programs, and activities, whether they are religious or secular in nature, are exempt.
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> ### Are religious entities’ programs covered by Title III if they are open to the general public?
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> No. For example, if a religious entity controls a school that is open to both members and non-members of the religious entity, the school is still considered a religious entity and is exempt from Title III. Likewise, if a religious entity holds an event, such as a festival or performance, which is open to the general public, it is exempt.

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