# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Hell, Jews may not even exist at all at this point had that been the case.

I’m sure Buchanan would say that is just a bonus.

[_As an author, media figure, and political commentator, Patrick Buchanan publicly espouses racist, anti-Semitic, anti-Israel and anti-immigrant views._ - Anti-Defamation League](https://www.adl.org/resources/profile/pat-buchanan-his-own-words)

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m sure Buchanan would say that is just a bonus.

Ay, there’s the rub ( and given Buchanan, probably BBQ sauce, corn bread, and fries too ).

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Don’t forget the baked beans. The gas has to come from somewhere.

ETA: Whether “gas” = “hot air” or “gas” = “showers” I leave up to the reader.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> > “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
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> > (Replace “the state” with “Donald Trump”)
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> “Anything not forbidden is mandatory.”

I always heard it as:

In a democracy, anything not illegal is permitted.  
And in a dictatorship, what is not illegal is compulsory.

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The world would have been such a better place that we wouldn’t have found out about the concentration camps until years later, if at all. Hell, Jews may not even exist at all at this point had that been the case.

Along those lines, I highly recommend Robert Harris’s alt-hist novel _Fatherland._ Very good; very chilling.

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I read that years ago. I did enjoy it.

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No clue where to put this, considering it’s all over the place. I’ll just go with Mary’s sentiments, so, it’ll go here.

> **[Mary Trump blasts Jon Stewart as ‘danger to democracy’ following ‘Daily Show’...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mary-trump-blasts-jon-stewart-234900802.html)**
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> Mary L. Trump— an outspoken critic of her uncle, former President Donald Trump — took issue with Stewart’s comparison of Trump and President Biden, calling it “a potential disaster for democr…

Apparently on JS’s return to the Daily Show last Monday, he shared some sentiments echoed by too much of the media over the ridiculous bothsidesism with Biden and Trump and their age/ability.  
One of the article’s links led to Mary’s beautiful excoriating of her uncle, the media and Jon’s misguided take on the matter. Never before read a full article over and under a large cookie pop-up (as well as greyed-out text!) - it was that good.

> **[Jon Stewart's Danger To Democracy](https://marytrump.substack.com/p/jon-stewarts-danger-to-democracy)**
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> And why it matters.

I haven’t seen JS’s segment, but I’d be curious to read if anyone has, and can point out anything he later said that might mitigate or alter what sounded like a disconcertingly bothsidesy position on JS’s part.

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> I haven’t seen JS’s segment, but I’d be curious to read if anyone has, and can point out anything he later said that might mitigate or alter what sounded like a disconcertingly bothsidesy position on JS’s part.

“These two candidates are similarly challenged.” – John Stewart referring to the cognative abilities of both Biden and Trump. Stewart spent most of the segment ripping into Biden and explains “When the barbarians are at the gate you want Conan. You don’t want chocolate chip guy [Biden].” While Stewart threw some barbs at Trump, I think Biden came off looking worse than Trump did. I like Stewart and the Daily Show, but damn this was just irresponsible on their part.

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Nice Jon . . . so I’ll put you down for Stalin and not Roosevelt then?

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Someday, maybe he’ll decide not to order his Everything Bagel with  
Trump’s Dick, Egg, and Cheese, Salt/Pepper/Ketchup.

( We don’t care what’s trendy with the Rich Folk in Deal, Jon… )

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I’d encourage everyone to watch the segment. Stewart _led_ with Trump’s (and his family’s, in depositions) memory problems. He anticipated all the flak he’d get from Dems, and forthrightly addressed it. I strongly support Biden and will vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump, and I thought Stewart was completely fair, on-target and funny in his criticisms of _both_.

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I can’t say that it pisses me off that Trump squeezes every nickel out of his fans. But it does piss me off that it is now seen as normal that a presidential candidate flogs merchandise for his personal gain.

Never Surrender high-top sneakers $399  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/iI8WobX.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/iI8WobX.jpg)  
Victory 47 cologne $99  
[![](https://i.imgur.com/Aetzkst.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Aetzkst.jpg)

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Thats just sad.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> [Cologne… Edited by me because I can’t quote aurora marie’s image]

Essence of ‘armpits, ketchup, and butt’.

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Might there be a whiff of flop sweat?

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Essence of ‘armpits, ketchup, and butt’.

You left out cremated steak.

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Cheese Doodles.  
Well _butyric acid_ which also smells like puke.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> it is now seen as normal that a presidential candidate flogs merchandise for his personal gain.

He’s not alone. Last campaign I answered one of his “polls” with the name Nunya Bizness and the email addy suckmydickdonnie at my domain. Not really to my surprise, that info’s been passed around Republican circles so now I get spammed with about a dozen pleas a day. Some are simply from candidates asking for a donation but the majority are from sites like Deep State Tribunal, Renewed Right, Border Alert, and Patriot Pulse with news tidbits.

Interspaced among them are ads. Picking a few at random just today,

- [Why is No One Talking About Elon’s Power Saving Advice](https://legendarygadgets.store/trk/esaver/v5/?cep=HIL2xDPBTREh801RT-ADha_wFPHVv5QOXXMLMG_fpJd2YTrJ0riWkrJU_cddKikp_T_SXS1THs6hJt2VbpXzTvBHkOdrH2xKRY_CzbMZduzgpAee6NWbhCEVQNy-OFcXcWsdQ8uubGQlZSYHL4k6kTUCQ7K-iuQ0BuFZ2_wTwaNqHRfj_UUGy4OoWd1P9zWeXdoZyeJA8ANGDWrNA-3tz7OYXEGugrChLEVAqZh06gQcXDHobwQ7DwLQxaMQg6MFqBQG2ZQSrnrPl7ZQAVeEhetmf2oV9ZZu_C8gSf78w58CQ1ou238cY8gDEL5Dsvnm_GKGxq3ZowAM46PZVYuJeW6yldz_Lpbv7NMTaLpahoRRLsVF8IX3uaZVY2ai3t5Z4Qx_QQSuXTV72Mopy8B6rVoHaAg5fwbf6lnpI6RJQhLQkjPE27LPJe3l9jBqy5Y4o0XKF6P728HREzfhnKKUHEGyxANVmHQvyXGQ2Lh6ZSlXaNitOiPQkn3AUvMVjV8gQswJV-Ejx1a03ss61PoKzQXs05s1JZenmhY7GWtYJ8M&lptoken=175f089c235b27381553&containertype=email&adid=922196&path=path&pid=1502&stripe=121863&proxy=&lineid=30220&device=desktop&clickid=85529a5a232c49c590832d4cf215f975&pi_adid=922196&pi_clickid=85529a5a232c49c590832d4cf215f975&pi_creativeid=963832)
- [Carson’s Pill is Making Regular People Geniuses](https://mentalcelerity.store/trk/SsBrain/clar/neurotech/v_base_04~V4_NEW/?cep=rtWgc8a2sB5BsdeslR-l6VlpZr4dJi_29-Y_GVd-CbqODEUEPzSdBorzL-l2KAq4sh0OE7iDiVVC0DZZEL68WpKLaAbOgwO0fy57xXDeRfSYkb1FZcT0TTVi-dYKy1AD9BvtuSIz58tMsQBeNsjPAGckmdHEV9Lx96cOh2htJmDeZY4NaBQ5OB2NfJd1HSFM5YXH0XSLuWTzC9KSyK2z1AV9lzeDavPLaEk2NzqY_bM918kYkkZZAjMMBzBT5_-w2adCvBmELQDuGuGDxalsBreqPjusBrJDCc0qzDIk3wYz18DKERlqi_SbQnCYWeyv1EZ9EvODu3_rVtl0uPzol19o2WrbbpUo1y7E7JRx0du-U31nDlN16GsT8qUlm4ozov99naZ7-C_xEYscyuH3WRSUyDTUvCboJADqH4DznZgT5SoOdNEyNDRpsgBti5LCLbBXFaheUVh_t2h3ooBNsNWPzwv3t5qN5q99A3g8k3yHxo1vY7AN-CWylf5Ys1gtHjoBZIBW0Ch-bgMYS2bc-2Nfg0_-ZIQg1o9uPM1HeF8&lptoken=17a0089d2303288a14cf&containertype=email&adid=921533&path=path&pid=2837&stripe=30395&proxy=&lineid=30794&device=desktop&clickid=54979e55775a434780bac19f18aad710&pi_adid=921533&pi_clickid=54979e55775a434780bac19f18aad710&pi_creativeid=963167)
- [**MUST READ:** They Don’t Want You to Carry One , But It’s not Illegal…](https://tactistaff.com/blog/tactistaff-newlaw2-pi.php?affId=8FBAEB93&c1=tact_us_16166&c2=1502_4893&pi_adid=919483&pi_clickid=607ef9825dd549c6b1179512b85cdcd2&pi_creativeid=961073)

Elon Musk this and Elon Musk that figure heavily. None of them are selling Trump Victory cologne like his nibs, though.

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When is the money well from the rubes going to run dry, with so many grifters sucking from it?

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Boring question, but why would Trump be called 47 if he’s elected again? It’s a count of Presidents, not Presidential terms. You’re not the Nth and (N+1)th President if you serve two consecutive terms, you remain the Nth person to _be_ President. So why wouldn’t Trump remain the 45th person to be President if he’s reelected?

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