# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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The headline says it all:

> **[Yes, Donald Trump's final days in office were even worse than we thought |...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/13/politics/donald-trump-books-last-days-2020/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump's final days as president were defined by near-total chaos as House Democrats moved to impeach him for his action (and inaction) during the January 6 riot at the US Capitol even as the soon-to-be-former president sought to use the power...

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/42 "2021-07-15T01:09:08Z")

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From WAPO

> **[Joint Chiefs chairman feared potential ‘Reichstag moment’ aimed at keeping...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joint-chiefs-chairman-feared-potential-reichstag-moment-aimed-at-keeping-trump-in-power/2021/07/14/a326f5fe-e4ec-11eb-a41e-c8442c213fa8_story.html)**
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> Gen. Mark A. Milley saw himself as one of the last empowered defenders of democracy during some of the darkest days in the country’s recent history, according to a new book by two Washington Post reporters.

In the waning weeks of Donald Trump’s term, the country’s top military leader repeatedly worried about what the president might do to maintain power after losing reelection, comparing his rhetoric to Adolf Hitler’s during the rise of Nazi Germany and asking confidants whether a coup was forthcoming, according to a new book by two Washington Post reporters.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/43 "2021-07-15T03:29:20Z")

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And then an attempted coup happened but the military, the National Guard and the local and State (Capitol?) police either were caught with their pants down or somehow thought all the chatter was just bluffing. Trumpanzees showed them just how much Law and Order meant to them. Hours upon hours of showing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/44 "2021-07-15T15:45:29Z")

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I certainly believe they were concerned, but they sure dropped the ball in _doing_ anything about that concern.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
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His halfwitted namesake thinks that lightning striking a mural of George Floyd was an [act of a higher power.](https://www.wtrf.com/news/ohio-headlines/donald-trump-jr-wonders-if-lightning-hitting-ohio-george-floyd-mural-was-by-a-higher-power/)

And Princess Ivanka could not be persuaded that [liberals and libertarians are different things.](https://twitter.com/vickypjward/status/1108869974418956288?lang=en)

Rotten apples don’t fall far from diseased trees.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/46 "2021-07-18T18:14:23Z")

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Does she think Rand Paul is a liberal?

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/47 "2021-07-18T20:04:09Z")

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Apparently, and that Bernie Sanders is libertarian.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/48 "2021-07-18T22:03:40Z")

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Perhaps she could be persuaded with a better analogy.

Something like “a socialite is not the same as a socialist.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/49 "2021-07-20T20:28:55Z")

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Is there any limit to the man’s gargantuan ego? No. No, there is not:

> **[Trump Says He Would Likely Beat George Washington And Abraham Lincoln In An...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/07/19/trump-says-he-would-likely-beat-george-washington-and-abraham-lincoln-in-an-election/?sh=20c8fbf9427e)**
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> “I think it would have been very hard for them to beat me,” Trump said.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/50 "2021-07-20T20:57:41Z")

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I think he meant to say that he would have a hard time admitting that they beat him.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/51 "2021-07-20T21:08:09Z")

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If he could beat _them_, and Biden beat _him_, that reflects pretty well on the incumbent President…!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/52 "2021-07-20T21:53:52Z")

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And then there’s this. Eyucccccccccccccccch:

> **[Trump Is Telling His Dinner Pals He's Planning to Run for President in 2024](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-run-president-2024-twitter-campaign-1198912/)**
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> In conversations with at least 3 people, a top GOP source says, Trump has said he wants another run at the White House

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/53 "2021-07-20T22:35:34Z")

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Fantastic, the US can really show how diverse we are with the first felon president.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/54 "2021-07-22T00:24:17Z")

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Examining the DumpsterFire v. Washington/Lincoln election, I noted that Washington/Lincoln are both dead - certainly a handicap. Consulting my copy of the US Constitution, that does not appear to bar their running so game on.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/55 "2021-07-22T01:03:52Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I noted that Washington/Lincoln are both dead - **certainly a handicap.**

No, apparently not.

> **[10 Times Dead People Won Elections - Listverse](https://listverse.com/2018/08/14/10-times-dead-people-won-elections/)**
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> Elections are usually the exclusive province of living people. Typically, certain requirements must be met before someone can run for office, such as a

> [@](#):
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> Elections are usually the exclusive province of living people. Typically, certain requirements must be met before someone can run for office, such as a minimum age or living in the area one wishes to govern. Having a pulse kind of goes without saying.
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> But none of that has stopped dead people from defeating their living contenders, sometimes by significant margins, to win seats they will never occupy. **Voters were usually aware that the candidate they were voting for was dead, but they still went out to vote for them.** In all instances, the deceased winners died before their [elections](https://listverse.com/2016/01/20/10-ridiculous-political-parties-you-wont-believe-got-elected/), but their names remained on the ballots for legal reasons.

(Emphasis added.)

And a recent Covid case:

> **[It Looks Like A Man Who Died Of COVID-19 Was Elected To North Dakota's State...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/dead-coronavirus-candidate-elected)**
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> David Andahl, 55, died from the coronavirus last month.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/56 "2021-07-22T10:54:18Z")

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Making the “rotten-lung Republican” the modern equivalent of the “yellow-dog Democrat.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/57 "2021-08-06T13:07:00Z")

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Grrrrrrr.

> **[The full picture of Trump's attempted coup is only starting to emerge | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/what-matters-trump-doj-coup/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump -- back in the final days of his presidency -- didn't exactly make a secret of his effort to overturn the election he'd just lost and so it's very easy to get tired of thinking about it, now that he's out of office and his...

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/58 "2021-08-06T13:52:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Grrrrrrr.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/what-matters-trump-doj-coup/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/what-matters-trump-doj-coup/index.html)

From that article:

> “Forget about a crime. I see several federal crimes here,” said the former federal prosecutor and CNN analyst Elie Honig, who has recently published a book that is an indictment of Barr’s time in the Trump administration.
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> Here’s more detail from Honig, who made these comments to CNN’s Erin Burnett:
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> _“I’ll be specific. It is a federal crime to deprive a state of a fair election._
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> _It is a federal crime to solicit false counting of ballots, false certification of an election._

> _It is a federal crime to conspire against the United States._

> Honig said there’s ample evidence for a criminal probe and that current Attorney General Merrick Garland should launch one even though DOJ hasn’t: “This is deadly serious and there has to be consequences. **Imagine if there is no consequences for this whatsoever. What kind of message does that send?** ”

Bolding mine.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/59 "2021-08-06T15:40:41Z")

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**IOKWRDI**?  
seems like that’s been a pretty consistant message.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/60 "2021-08-09T18:45:47Z")

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He has never in his life faced any consequence for any action. I’m sure he feels that the coup attempt will be no different and I’m not so sure he’s wrong. This is unprecedented, a thousand times worse than Watergate- but about 30% of the country believes every word he tweeted so he may well never have to answer for anything. I’m not betting that any prosecutor is going to bring charges and even if he did the presence of one MAGAbot on the jury would prevent any conviction. I’m afraid that as long as he lives and breathes he poses an existential threat to the world.

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