# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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Sounds like a setup for his personal Kristallnacht performed by his neo-nazi and white supremacists friends. He’s okay with Jews counting his money and defending him in court though.

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> He’s okay with Jews counting his money

Only if they wear those “little hats.”

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And those yellow stars…?

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Their ghetto will have walls.

“On both sides, on both sides.”

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The Art of the Deal
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> [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/us/politics/rnc-trump-investigations.html?unlocked\_article\_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSlUaBSbIRp8\_qRmHmfnE2\_smgHS7MDKITC4HzuILDpOc-kjEeatkYcB13yieQJUJFo4Tc8FI770VOV1xGU7vq4GYmZ8BLmJv99u9UzNr09fEA7tntGLnYzT8Ib5xnvjv4h\_YaWbtCvHfg3QxNU0y98seAFKr3XQCxqbGGvckmYUtmKd8We0pAGsIdyKIvPH3Cx5hONvgbxrU6wI-XusxSiiE1JfHqOpGKFMOfAqAGHBv4m886MdfO8cWPMv9LB0ie8n4g9YBG1O8jCNlI3wmYmEBrO9zjR4&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/16/us/politics/rnc-trump-investigations.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSlUaBSbIRp8_qRmHmfnE2_smgHS7MDKITC4HzuILDpOc-kjEeatkYcB13yieQJUJFo4Tc8FI770VOV1xGU7vq4GYmZ8BLmJv99u9UzNr09fEA7tntGLnYzT8Ib5xnvjv4h_YaWbtCvHfg3QxNU0y98seAFKr3XQCxqbGGvckmYUtmKd8We0pAGsIdyKIvPH3Cx5hONvgbxrU6wI-XusxSiiE1JfHqOpGKFMOfAqAGHBv4m886MdfO8cWPMv9LB0ie8n4g9YBG1O8jCNlI3wmYmEBrO9zjR4&smid=url-share)

Let’s say his legal bills come to $2 million. He’ll take the $1.6 million from the RNC (soon to renamed TNC), pay $1 million to the lawyers, stiff the lawyers for the other $1 million, and pocket $600,000 from the RNC. The art of the steal.

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Meanwhile, Junior exhorts the faithful to quit following the teachings of Christ.

> **[Donald Trump Jr. tells young conservatives: Following the peaceful part of...](https://www.rawstory.com/turning-point-usa-and-donald-trump-jr/)**
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> Donald Trump Jr. told a group of young conservatives on Sunday that following the peaceful rules of the Christian Bible has "gotten us nothing."
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> While speaking at a Turning Point USA conference in Arizona, Trump praised the group as the "frontline...

> He suggested that conservatives should not “turn the other cheek” despite the biblical instructions of Jesus Christ.
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> “We’ve turned the other cheek and I understand sort of the [biblical reference](https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-39.htm), I understand the mentality but it’s gotten us nothing,” he complained. “OK? It’s gotten us nothing while we’ve ceded ground in every major institution.”

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The apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

> **[Trump evokes antisemitic tropes, says Jewish Americans ‘don’t like Israel’](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/586387-trump-evokes-antisemetic-tropes-says-jewish-americans-dont-like/)**
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> Former President Trump evoked antisemitic tropes about Jews in excerpts of an interview released on Friday and claimed that they “either don’t like Israel or don’t care about Israel.”In…

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Let’s say his legal bills come to $2 million. He’ll take the $1.6 million from the RNC (soon to renamed TNC), **pay $1 million to the lawyers,** stiff the lawyers for the other $1 million, and pocket $600,000 from the RNC. The art of the steal.

I agree except for the part I bolded. The lawyers will get no cash, just passes to Trump golf courses, which Trump will claim are worth $1 million.

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Individual 1 is suing the New York state AG to stop her from investigating him. Interesting take on the law.

> **[Trump Sues New York A.G. in Bid to Stop Inquiry Into His Business (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/nyregion/trump-lawsuit-letitia-james.html)**
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> The lawsuit argues that the attorney general, Letitia James, has long exhibited a political bias against the former president.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Meanwhile, Junior exhorts the faithful to quit following the teachings of Christ.
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> [Donald Trump Jr. tells young conservatives: Following the peaceful part of the Bible has 'gotten us nothing' - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/turning-point-usa-and-donald-trump-jr/)
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> > He suggested that conservatives should not “turn the other cheek” despite the biblical instructions of Jesus Christ.
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> > “We’ve turned the other cheek and I understand sort of the [biblical reference](https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-39.htm), I understand the mentality but it’s gotten us nothing,” he complained. “OK? It’s gotten us nothing while we’ve ceded ground in every major institution.”

Be hilarious if the effect of his remarks was to remind Evangelicals that the teachings of Christ are a thing, and they abandon the Republican Party in droves.

Because he can say “We’ve turned the other cheek” until the cows come home, but there’s precious little evidence that they have.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Meanwhile, Junior exhorts the faithful to quit following the teachings of Christ…

A very special Christmas message indeed.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Meanwhile, Junior exhorts the faithful to quit following the teachings of Christ.

When did Trump followers ever _begin_ to follow the teachings of Christ?

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Be hilarious if the effect of his remarks was to remind Evangelicals that the teachings of Christ are a thing, and they abandon the Republican Party in droves.

Naw, they’ll have no trouble with the mental gymnastics to convince themselves that Trump’s words are the actual words of Christ / the Bible. If the religious leadership have an actual, uh, _come-to-Jesus_ moment regarding the wool pulled over their eyes, and push comes to shove, the rank and file will abandon Christianity for the religion of Trump, as [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anybody-know-an-active-q-supporter/956289/36) so elegantly predicts.

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Actually, most of the necessary mental gymnastics are already in the works: behold the [Conservative Bible Project](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/conservative-bible-projec_n_310037).

(I must add a disclaimer: because I want to hold on the remnants of my mental faculties, I haven’t ventured into the depths of the CVP. But I have no doubt that given the general tenor of what I have seen, heresy like giving to the poor and turning the other cheek have been or will be 86’d.)

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Christianity hasn’t turned the other cheek since Constantine the Great.

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> [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](#):
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> the rank and file will abandon Christianity for the religion of Trump

That just happened with my MAGAhead father. While not a very religious person, he was a regular church goer until he left the catholic church because “it was too left wing” and then after a short stint with another protestant church, left that too because they were too empathetic for the poor. Couple of his friends did the same.

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> [@BrickBat](#):
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> eft that too because they were too empathetic for the poor.

So basically he left the church because they were following the explicit teachings of Jesus.  
I think he had a tenuous grasp of Christianity in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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Well, they’ll need to cut all the stuff about helping people and forgiveness and peace, which will drastically shorten the book. The existing New Testament will be reduced to a short story about that one time that Jesus went ballistic on the money changers ……and we all know what _money changer_ is code for.

Then they will add a new book of the Bible that happens after the Resurrection, where the freshly risen Jesus says “It’s not over until I say it’s over, motherfuckers”, declares victory over death itself, and engages in multiple schemes to get revenge on the liberal Romans that made him the subject of a witch hunt and tried to kill him in order to steal the election from him.

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And lo, once again we must all bow down and offer praise to @Ann_Hedonia . For she hath saved Dopers from any need to look at the CBP\* for themselves, thereby putting their sanity at great peril.

\* Erroneously referred to as “CVP” above. Probably something farted up from the vast store of acronyms I acquired during my 41+ years in IT.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Well, they’ll need to cut all the stuff about helping people and forgiveness and peace, which will drastically shorten the book.

The _Conservative Christian Bible_ is a trifold pamphlet.

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