# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 303
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6044 "2024-03-01T14:17:02Z")
> [@EnglishGrey](#): > > I have not watched the video… did he mean “torn” rather than “born”? Nope, he said “born”, and this one time, that’s actually what he meant. The problem is, his “idea” is even stupider than you think it might be. He’s talked before about this, in a slightly clearer fashion. He really believes that there are some doctors and/or hospitals out there where they allow a baby to be born normally, but then convene a little debate committee to decide if that baby should still be aborted. And if they decide “yes”, they kill the baby. > [TRUMP:](https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-donald-trump-ap-top-news-crime-273acfa7888d406d8cacb8dc601088be) “Democrats are aggressively pushing late-term abortion allowing children to be ripped from their mother’s womb, right up until the moment of birth. The baby is born and you wrap the baby beautifully and you talk to the mother about the possible execution of the baby.” — rally in Panama City Beach, Florida, on Wednesday. > “You have some states that are allowed to kill the child after birth, and you can’t allow that,” [Trump insisted.](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-back-one-most-outlandish-194019839.html) > > “Look, the Democrats are able to kill the baby after birth,” he doubled down. > > “Even after birth, you’re allowed to terminate the baby,” he claimed. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6045 "2024-03-01T15:22:41Z")
Dr. Donald J. Trump, Ob/Gyn. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6046 "2024-03-01T15:37:27Z")
We have a household policy of turning off the sound on any devices when he speaks, keeps our blood pressure down. When I heard about this “speech”, I broke the rule… I thought it was a new improved AI deepfake. I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6047 "2024-03-01T15:37:52Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > [TRUMP:](https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-donald-trump-ap-top-news-crime-273acfa7888d406d8cacb8dc601088be) “Democrats are aggressively pushing late-term abortion allowing children to be ripped from their mother’s womb, right up until the moment of birth. The baby is born and you wrap the baby beautifully and you talk to the mother about the possible execution of the baby.” — rally in Panama City Beach, Florida, on Wednesday. This has me a bit worried. Because as we well know, with Republicans, Every Accusation Is A Confession. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6048 "2024-03-01T16:11:57Z")
I see, in that context it is understandable. He just missed “and killed” between “born after nine months” and “this is wrong, this has got to stop”. A good example that he doesn’t understand the things he is saying. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6049 "2024-03-01T17:07:27Z")
Is it a standard NY accent he has? The few videos I watch of the orange incompetent, every sentence ends with a decrescendo, which does not inspire confidence. The last few words kind of fade out, whereas most public speakers would put “punch” into every word. It sounds weak and lazy, which I guess is appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6050 "2024-03-01T17:08:55Z")
# [Donald Trump floats Texas Gov. Greg Abbott as possible VP pick](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/donald-trump-greg-abbott-vice-president-18697979.php) > “Certainly he would be somebody that I would very much consider,” Trump said of Abbott, who he said has “done a great job” and is a “spectacular man.” [For certain values of “great” and “spectacular”..](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6051 "2024-03-01T17:10:22Z")
You hae to get behind someone before you can stab them in the back. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6052 "2024-03-01T17:40:15Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > # [Donald Trump floats Texas Gov. Greg Abbott as possible VP pick](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/donald-trump-greg-abbott-vice-president-18697979.php) > > > “Certainly he would be somebody that I would very much consider,” Trump said of Abbott, who he said has “done a great job” and is a “spectacular man.” > > [For certain values of “great” and “spectacular”…](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/screw-greg-abbott-texas-governor/934141) I doubt this will happen. Abbot uses a wheelchair. It might make him look weak. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6053 "2024-03-01T17:46:04Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@EnglishGrey](#): > > > > I have not watched the video… did he mean “torn” rather than “born”? > > Nope, he said “born”, and this one time, that’s actually what he meant. > > The problem is, his “idea” is even stupider than you think it might be. He’s talked before about this, in a slightly clearer fashion. He really believes that there are some doctors and/or hospitals out there where they allow a baby to be born normally, but then convene a little debate committee to decide if that baby should still be aborted. And if they decide “yes”, they kill the baby. > > > [TRUMP:](https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-donald-trump-ap-top-news-crime-273acfa7888d406d8cacb8dc601088be) “Democrats are aggressively pushing late-term abortion allowing children to be ripped from their mother’s womb, right up until the moment of birth. The baby is born and you wrap the baby beautifully and you talk to the mother about the possible execution of the baby.” — rally in Panama City Beach, Florida, on Wednesday. > > > “You have some states that are allowed to kill the child after birth, and you can’t allow that,” [Trump insisted.](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-back-one-most-outlandish-194019839.html) > > > > “Look, the Democrats are able to kill the baby after birth,” he doubled down. > > > > “Even after birth, you’re allowed to terminate the baby,” he claimed. Sometimes, if a baby is born with extremely serious birth defects that leave them with absolutely no chance of survival -such as the absence of a brain or functional lungs- the standard practice is to keep the infant comfortable for the very short duration - sometimes minutes- of their life. This is something that’s always been, because their really is no other reasonable course of action. However, in this age of reliable pre-natal testing and (until recently) legal abortion, many parents choose to terminate a non-viable pregnancy. This keeps the mom from running the very high risk of a spontaneous miscarriage, which may happen at a time and place when medical services are not immediately available. It also spares the mother the trauma of carrying a non-viable pregnancy to term. Pro-life conservatives are against such intervention, mostly because they believe in miracles over medicine. The irony is that such people often think that the “wrap up the baby and hold them until the inevitable death” is a positive experience for the mother, and they sometimes use stories of this experience as a reason for not allowing the abortion of non-viable fetuses. ---
**Author:** ![EnglishGrey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/englishgrey/32/14111_2.png) [@EnglishGrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnglishGrey)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6054 "2024-03-01T18:55:20Z")
Everything said here is eminently sensible and I do get it. I think my problem is cognitive dissonance, I simply do not understand how anyone who can put one foot in front of the other (let alone garner millions of votes to lead an important country) can ‘think’ things like that. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6055 "2024-03-01T19:04:02Z")
> [@EnglishGrey](#): > > I simply do not understand how anyone who can put one foot in front of the other (let alone garner millions of votes to lead an important country) can ‘think’ things like that. There is a seriously strong, stubborn streak of stupid in this country. (Alliteration for free.) Keeping people ignorant (and thus pliable) has been a long-term effort by the right wing and is currently yielding impressive results. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6056 "2024-03-01T19:06:02Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I doubt this will happen. Abbot uses a wheelchair. It might make him look weak. At least it would ensure that his VP would be shorter than him. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6057 "2024-03-01T19:11:06Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Gupse](#): > > > > Her face and voice steady as stone, she’d said, ‘Hitler was democratically elected.’ > > No he wasn’t. Not in 1933. But in the following year when Hitler failed to get a two-thirds majority in the Reichstag to approve his Enabling Act, Hindenburg dissolved the Reichstag. In the new Reichstag election that ensued, the Nazis got 43%, but the other right wing parties agreeing to coalition with them made it a simple majority. By promising to protect the rights of the Catholic church, Hitler got the Catholic Centrist party on board and that gave him the supermajority he needed to become dictator. Granted, this was hardly a fair election because the leftist parties had already been driven underground, but the form and appearance of a democratic process was maintained. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6058 "2024-03-01T19:24:41Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I doubt this will happen. Abbot uses a wheelchair. It might make him look weak. Probably not, but it’s in line with the level of strategery Trump employs If people seem excited about it over the coming weeks, go ahead and do it and say you always planned it that way. If not, just say it was obviously a joke, who would put a guy in a wheelchair on the ballot, the media was once again misrepresenting him by using his exact words, etc. There’s no down side while the primaries are still going on to floating any number of VP candidates and later on pretending to have had a Machiavellian plan in place. It won’t fool anybody paying attention, but anybody paying attention already disregards the veracity of anything he says ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6059 "2024-03-01T20:50:18Z")
It’s easier that way. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6060 "2024-03-01T22:30:32Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > There is a seriously strong, stubborn streak of stupid in this country. (Alliteration for free.) _The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”_ ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6061 "2024-03-01T22:46:47Z")
Neil Postman was sadly prophetic in [Amusing Ourselves to Death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death) – in 1985: > The essential premise of the book, which Postman extends to the rest of his argument(s), is that “form excludes the content”, that is, a particular medium can only sustain a particular level of ideas. Thus [rational argument](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_argument), integral to print typography, is [militated](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/militated) against by the medium of television for this reason. Owing to this shortcoming, politics and religion are diluted, and “news of the day” becomes a packaged commodity. Television de-emphasizes the quality of information in favor of satisfying the far-reaching needs of entertainment, by which information is encumbered and to which it is subordinate. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6062 "2024-03-01T23:07:03Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Television de-emphasizes the quality of information in favor of satisfying the far-reaching needs of entertainment Which FOX has sharpend and honed. They got sued for 3/4 Billion dollars. It _may_ have made them take notice, but I doubt it. ---
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Answer to the initial question (OP): he’s still alive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=302) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=304)