# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 332
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6624 "2024-04-23T01:49:06Z")
I remember the last time he put out a call like that. Of course, he still hasn’t been held to account over it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6625 "2024-04-23T01:55:31Z")
> [@from Truth Social](#): > > ushered off to far away “holding areas,” ‘Free Speech Areas’, as Republicans called them. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6626 "2024-04-23T02:15:07Z")
> [@from Truth Social](#): > > “THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF.” Show of hands: does he have the _slightest idea_ who said this first? And that it’s “we” not “you.” * * * Blather blather blather… > **[The Circus Trump Wanted Outside His Trial Hasn’t Arrived](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/22/us/politics/trump-trial-protests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk0.NCkc.V4GhyJpO0118&smid=url-share)** > > With support from demonstrators in Lower Manhattan spotty so far, Donald Trump issued a call to “rally behind MAGA,” and suggested the poor turnout was a result of a plot against his supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6627 "2024-04-23T17:06:50Z")
I take some small encouragement that MAGA folk aren’t swarming to the courthouse, at least not in huge numbers. That gives me hope for a violence-free election this fall. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6628 "2024-04-23T18:39:21Z")
I just got this email in my spam folder. In light (as it were) of the incident a few days ago, I’d say this is in exceptionally-- though not surprisingly-- bad taste. I didn’t click through to find out the price, but at the bottom it says, “Only 172 left at this price.” 🙄 [![](https://i.imgur.com/o7G2ddI.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/o7G2ddI.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6629 "2024-04-23T18:51:04Z")
Yeah, nothing says “rugged elegance” quite like Donnie Two-scoops. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6630 "2024-04-23T19:20:59Z")
Plus, I doubt he’s waterproof. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6631 "2024-04-23T20:15:42Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Only 172 left at this price.” And what IS “this price”? “Overpriced”, I’d assume. ---
**Author:** ![EnglishGrey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/englishgrey/32/14111_2.png) [@EnglishGrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnglishGrey)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6632 "2024-04-23T20:36:07Z")
Sustainability? Because it’s rechargeable? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6633 "2024-04-23T20:52:31Z")
> [@digs](#): > > And what IS “this price”? > > “Overpriced”, I’d assume. Like I said, I didn’t want to follow the link to find out. A stronger person than I am can follow up and report. Well, yeah, “overpriced” for sure. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6634 "2024-04-23T21:05:48Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Plus, I doubt he’s waterproof. In parts of the British English speaking world (not sure about the USA) there is a phrase, “tighter than a shark’s arse”. It may well be duplicately applied to Trump here: both in the original format, “extremely stingy” or, in Trump’s case, the bilge home seal in the bottom of a boat, which, alas, he apparently lacks. According to rumour, he’s not so tight down at the bottom. But the latter use will sink him. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6635 "2024-04-23T21:12:54Z")
Okay, I took one for the team, and did a search. Lots of Trump lighters, mostly Bics and Zippos. No surprise there; both often will decorate their lighters with everything from sports team logos to military insignia to whatever. Yes, there are Trump Zippos and Bics too. Refining the search to include “waterproof,” the lighter illustrated in **Thelma Lou** ’s post came up, although not exactly the same advertisement, and from 2020. It just seems to be a perfectly normal and serviceable lighter with “Trump” on the side. An EBay seller had it for US$20. My guess? Take the Trump waterproof lighters that didn’t sell in 2020, rebrand them with 2024, and try to sell them again. They don’t seem to have any link to Trump himself or to his companies; it’s just somebody capitalizing on the Trump name. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6636 "2024-04-23T21:49:26Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > will decorate their lighters with… military insignia Zippo won’t always. I needed a Zippo with VF-2 squadron patch from when they were flying F-14s. I sent them the insignia, but they wouldn’t do it. They would only make lighters with the insignia if the request came from the squadron itself. Fortunately, I eventually found one on eBay to complete my collection. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6637 "2024-04-23T21:59:36Z")
Right, yes. Good point, **Johnny** , and I should have mentioned that; Zippo won’t do anything for an individual. The request must come from the organization (military unit, sports team, etc.) itself. I suppose in Trump’s case, his organization or somebody authorized to do things on behalf of the organization, commissioned Trump Zippos. But after seeing the Trump waterproof lighter, it seems to me that somebody ran off a bunch of “Trump” stickers and stuck them on a waterproof lighter. Yes, it looks that hokey. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6638 "2024-04-24T01:08:39Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > But after seeing the Trump waterproof lighter, it seems to me that somebody ran off a bunch of “Trump” stickers and stuck them on a waterproof lighter. Yes, it looks that hokey. The cheaper they are, the more likely they came from Trump, himself. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6639 "2024-04-24T01:20:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Plus, I doubt he’s waterproof. I doubt even his shorts are waterproof. “Ask the make-up trailer if they can mix Bronzer with Lume…” ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6640 "2024-04-24T01:22:23Z")
Got an e mail in my spam folder that said Free Trump t shirt. I am certain its not free. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6641 "2024-04-24T02:31:12Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > They don’t seem to have any link to Trump himself or to his companies; it’s just somebody capitalizing on the Trump name. What? A grifter? Grifting on the Trump name? I am shocked. You should see my shocked face right now. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6642 "2024-04-24T02:37:42Z")
The question is, will they send trump his share of the take? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6643 "2024-04-24T02:46:38Z")
Likely yes, in the form of donations to his legal fees. Er, I mean campaign. Yeah, that’s it … his _campaign_. Seriously though, the thing looked so shabbily done that I doubt that the seller had any kind of contractual arrangement with Trump. Not in the way that Zippo and Bic have with the NFL, NHL, MLB, or the US Marines, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=331) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=333)