# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Got an e mail in my spam folder that said Free Trump t shirt. I am certain its not free.

In order to free him, he must first be locked up.

Although this does suggest that if he _is_ locked up, the grifters using his name will continue to swarm.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The question is, will they send trump his share of the take?

\< On the jukebox, a record plays. “A Boy Named Sue” \>

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Got an e mail in my spam folder that said Free Trump t shirt. I am certain its not free.

All it will cost you is your self-respect… or your soul.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
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Wait. I think its not free, probably Says free trump. D’oh.

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**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6648 "2024-04-24T23:43:53Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> free trump

Gotta lock him up first.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
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I’m listening…

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6650 "2024-04-25T11:21:03Z")

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> [@vbob](#):
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> Gotta lock him up first.

How can I miss you if you never leave?

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6651 "2024-04-25T19:23:28Z")

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It pisses me off that people eagerly let Trump humiliate them and ask: “please sir, may I have some more?”.

> [@DJT at Truth Social](#):
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> Wow! Former A.G. Bill Barr, who let a lot of great people down by not investigating Voter Fraud in our Country, has just Endorsed me for President despite the fact that I called him “Weak, Slow Moving, Lethargic, Gutless, and Lazy” (New York Post!). Based on the fact that I greatly appreciate his wholehearted Endorsement, I am removing the word “Lethargic” from my statement. Thank you Bill. MAGA2024!

What is it that could possibly be worth letting someone treat you like this? I will never understand.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6652 "2024-04-25T19:34:08Z")

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Quoting myself from a related thread:

> [@How is trump still a viable candidate for president? Really, how?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-trump-still-a-viable-candidate-for-president-really-how/983949/1296):
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> Here’s an good example of the “How” the OP asks:
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/politics/bill-barr-donald-trump-vote/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/politics/bill-barr-donald-trump-vote/index.html)
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> So you can have direct, first hand knowledge of how far Trump would go, be able to verify that the claims he made to attempt to overthrow the government were bogus, be attacked by him, hear him threaten you directly for being disloyal, but when it comes down to choosing between your team (R) and (D), the Democrat is obviously worse for “reasons”.
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> > “I’ve said all along given two bad choices, I think it’s my duty to pick the person I think would do the least harm to the country,” Barr replied. “And in my mind, I will vote the Republican ticket. I will support the Republican ticket.”
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> > “I think the real danger to the country — the real danger to democracy, as I say — is the progressive agenda,” he continued. “Trump may be playing Russian roulette, but a continuation of the Biden administration is national suicide in my opinion.”
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> I personally read this as “I hate Trump, but only one party will work to ensure that I, as a wealthy, white, male Christian, will have perpetual deference and primacy in our society.”

It’s all about which candidate will make _his_ life better. It is entirely self-interest. No different than a prostitute that lets a John hit her, because he’ll _pay_ more for the option. Like has nothing to do with it.

(Aside, I’m not blaming the prostitute in the above example, there’s a lot of other factors for that profession, just using a nice insulting way to say that Barr’s virtue is entirely mercenary in the wealth and social sense)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6653 "2024-04-25T19:43:25Z")

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It’s still astonishing to me that Barr, an able and respected lawyer before he became Trump’s AG, fully aware of what a threat his former boss poses to American democracy and the rule of law, and having been personally dumped upon, belittled and insulted by the guy, would now actually _endorse_ him. Jeez.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6654 "2024-04-25T19:47:36Z")

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I’m sure he mentally justifies it as a noble sacrifice, accepting the slings and arrows of an idiot to save the country from the evils of progressivism.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6655 "2024-04-25T20:04:35Z")

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That’s actually a pretty funny post. Seeing as how it’s grammatically correct, only has a few random capitalizations and contains several 3- and 4-syllable words, I’m pretty sure Trump didn’t write it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6656 "2024-04-25T20:31:16Z")

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This. No way did trump write that. Or even think of writing it.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6657 "2024-04-25T20:32:54Z")

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> [@DJT at Truth Social](#):
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> Based on the fact that I greatly appreciate his wholehearted Endorsement, I am removing the word “Lethargic” from my statement.

This HAS to be fake. Right? _Right_?

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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Yes, because it’s actually funny and self-aware.

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Says free trump

I could take a free Trump (I always wanted a pet monkey), but is the T shirt decent quality?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/6660 "2024-04-26T05:51:32Z")

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What pisses me off about that turd having been president and standing a good chance of getting back in office is that lawyers supporting him [actually argue this bullshit in court](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-tells-scotus-even-military-145343866.html) and his herd doesn’t bat an eye.

> **Trump Lawyer Tells SCOTUS That Even A Military Coup Order Would Be Immune From Prosecution**
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> WASHINGTON — A presidential order to the military to conduct a coup to keep him in office “might well be an official act,” [Donald Trump](https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Donald%20Trump)’s lawyer told the Supreme Court Thursday on the question of whether Trump’s attempted coup is immune from prosecution.

Kind of makes you wonder, though, if the jackass thought he had such control over the military, why he didn’t send the troops in to stop the insurrection.\*

\*Of couerse we all know why.

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There’s something very frustrating to me about the arguments that Trump’s lawyers keep making in this case. The justices keep asking some variation of “would the president be immune if he…” (ordered the assassination of a rival, ordered the military to stage a coup, etc.). The response from the lawyer is always some form of “it depends.”

Depends on what? I have not heard him take a stand on when this magical presidential immunity kicks in and when it doesn’t. It’s impossible to get anything specific from this guy.

Is that common in these sorts of court cases? Do attorneys deliberately avoid giving specifics when arguing constitutional issues before the Supreme Court, and do the justices deliberately let them weasel out of it?

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Is that common in these sorts of court cases? Do attorneys deliberately avoid giving specifics when arguing constitutional issues before the Supreme Court, and do the justices deliberately let them weasel out of it?

It depends.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s something very frustrating to me about the arguments that Trump’s lawyers keep making in this case. The justices keep asking some variation of “would the president be immune if he…” (ordered the assassination of a rival, ordered the military to stage a coup, etc.). The response from the lawyer is always some form of “it depends.”
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> Depends on what? I have not heard him take a stand on when this magical presidential immunity kicks in and when it doesn’t. It’s impossible to get anything specific from this guy.

I agree and had the same thought. They’re obviously weasel words to somehow avoid acknowledging the absurdity of the argument. Reductio ad absurdem on the justices’ part.

But I also wish Justice Jackson had followed the “it depends on the details” response with, “Okay, can you provide a hypothetical where the president issued such an order, but immunity would not apply? Because given your argument, I lack the imagination to conjure up such a scenario.”

That would have been interesting.

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