# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Depends on if you trust corporations or not

Ha. I win over the corporations on that!

We had a daughter, we wanted another child. I wanted a son. Using a period tracking app, I calculated the exact date to attempt to inseminate my wife. 70% reliability is reliable enough for me.

It worked. I have two wonderful children. And inactive sperm, as I got a vasectomy shortly after my son was born.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > I like that the judge wrote, "“It would be preferable if the Court could impose a fine more commensurate with the wealth of the contemnor,”
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> What are the odds on any of those fines getting paid?
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> What fine/judgement/retainer/fee/salary has actually been paid, by Trump?  
> Isn’t it turtles all the way down?

He’s paid at least two:

> **[Trump pays $110,000 fine but must do more to lift contempt order, New York...](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/20/trump-pays-110000-fine-contempt-order-not-lifted-new-york-ags-office-says.html)**
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> A $10,000 per day fine against Trump could be reinstated if he does not meet the conditions required to lift a contempt-of-court finding.

> **[Hush money trial judge raises threat of jail as he finds Trump violated gag...](https://apnews.com/article/trump-stormy-daniels-hush-money-election-2024-d2f9badee0b28a60d32bc98c0d4e783f)**
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> Donald Trump has been held in contempt of court and fined $9,000 for repeatedly violating a gag order that barred him from making public statements about witnesses, jurors and some others connected to his New York hush money case.

But I’d love to see him have to pay a _lot_ more!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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Yeah, the thing about not paying court fines is the court can put a lien on property, send people to collect, or potentially send violators to jail.

That’s the difference between stiffing small time contractors and attempting the same to judges.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> …exact date to attempt to inseminate my wife…

What a romantic, smooth-talking devil you are! 💞 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
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My appoach was slightly less literal than my description, and I did (and she did) make it a fun occasion for both of us, but I did have a scientific strategy in mind.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> You have to wonder how many of the January 6 indicted realize that Donald Trump was still President for TWO WEEKS after they committed their crimes.

Well there’s your problem. He started on it immediately on the evening of January 6th, but as with every miracle Trump performs it takes two weeks, and so wasn’t ready until the evening of January 20th. Ooops!

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Using a period tracking app, I calculated the exact date to attempt to inseminate my wife.

“Honey, can I borrow you for a minute?”  
_“HOW did you get past security? I’m MEETING WITH THE JOINT CHIEFS! Can’t this wait?”_  
“Well, we have maximum chance for a boy during the next ten minutes, according to the math… umm, do you want me to show my work?”  
_“Annnd, now you’ve been tackled by federal agents… sorry, dear.”_

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
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Unlike the eponymous star in this thread, at least I planned the ocasion, gave the lady involved due attention and did not feel obliged to pay her hush money afterwards.

ETA, while I am not very serious in this thread, there is [research](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/449885/) that backs me up, somewhat.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA HAS SLANDERED ME! I SMELL LIKE HOPE AND STEAKS AND AMERICA1

[my bold]  
Hope Hicks?

If Trump is smelling of Hope Hicks, it would be just perfect given all the clutching-of-pearls by the right-wing over Clinton and Lewinsky.

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I would not wish that on Hope Hicks.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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This would absolutely not surprise me. Young attractive former model, raised by Trump to a position of power despite hardly any experience, always seemed to be at the president’s side…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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I would be amazed if he _hadn’t_ made a pass at her, maybe several. Just ask his two ex-wives: obeying his marriage vows isn’t exactly a priority for him.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Just ask his two ex-wives: obeying his marriage vows isn’t exactly a priority for him.

His third wife as some experience with that as well.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > You have to wonder how many of the January 6 indicted realize that Donald Trump was still President for TWO WEEKS after they committed their crimes.
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> Well there’s your problem. He started on it immediately on the evening of January 6th, but as with every miracle Trump performs it takes two weeks, and so wasn’t ready until the evening of January 20th. Ooops!

Heh. I _knew_ I should have typed ‘fourteen days’ instead!

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > Just ask his two ex-wives: obeying his marriage vows isn’t exactly a priority for him.
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> His third wife as some experience with that as well.

Obeying ANYONE but his dead father has been a challenge. “Above all, don’t be a LOSER, Donald!”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> His third wife as some experience with that as well.

So I guess it’s safe to say that Hope Hicks has blown her chance to be wife #4?

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
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I’m not particularly onboard with Melania’s tactics in this situation. She has been very distant from Tump recently, and I assume she is hoping he doesnt do any incredibly stupid maneuver and she can get something, anything, out of her marriage.

I don’t have a pile of respect for her. Like Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, I give her grudging respect for bravery (and a little less so for foolhardiness)… but she (and they) did apparently have sexual intercourse with someone who is the least possible attractive man, both in personality and vain skin color. What were they thinking?

I have made romantic errors in the past. I guess most of us have done so. So not blaming the victim, but certainly blaming Mrs Trump’s judgement.

Melania, from a random internet person to you: it is time to divorce.

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Yeah. They are all basically gold diggers. Really anyone in Trumps orbit is.

I suppose his golf buddies may not be. But they might just want the tabloid exposure, and to laugh behind his back at his ridiculous cheating.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> So I guess it’s safe to say that Hope Hicks has blown her chance to be wife #4?

Well, she _ **is** _ 35 now.

So kind of on the old side for Trump’s tastes.

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Melania, from a random internet person to you: it is time to divorce.

My theory is that she forced a renegotiation of what had been their pre-nup, resulting in much-more favorable terms so long as she doesn’t divorce him within X years and agrees to some trivially easy restrictions on her behavior (e.g., no badmouthing him to the press). I think she’s making the best of having sold her soul.

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