# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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If you, like I did a few minutes back, check Xitter’s main page or whatever it’s called now, you would have seen that every single xitterer supporting Tan the Conman also had a post touting the birther nonsense.

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I’m actually a bit stunned by this one:

> **[Trump promised to scrap climate laws if US oil bosses donated $1bn – report](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/09/trump-oil-ceo-donation)**
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> Trump promised to 20 executives at Mar-a-Lago dinner to increase oil drilling and reverse pollution rules among other pitches

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> Donald Trump dangled a brazen “deal” in front of some of the top US oil bosses last month, proposing that they give him $1bn for his White House re-election campaign and vowing that once back in office he would instantly tear up Joe Biden’s environmental regulations and prevent any new ones, according to a bombshell new report.
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> According to the Washington Post, the former US president made his jaw-dropping pitch, which the paper described as “remarkably blunt and transactional”, at a dinner at his Mar-a-Lago home and club.
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> In front of more than 20 executives, including from Chevron, Exxon and Occidental Petroleum, he promised to increase oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, remove hurdles to drilling in the Alaskan Arctic, and reverse new rules designed to cut car pollution. He would also overturn the Biden administration’s decision in January to pause new natural gas export permits which have been denounced as “climate bombs”.
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> “You’ll get it on the first day,” Trump said, according to the Post, citing an unnamed dinner attendee.

Stunned. Ab-so-lute-ly stunned.

Wow.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> “You’ll get it on the first day,” Trump said, according to the Post, citing an unnamed dinner attendee.

Just like scrapping Obamacare and replacing it with something much, much better.

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Isn’t it illegal for public officials to solicit bribes? Sounds like another case for Mr. Smith …

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Just like scrapping Obamacare and replacing it with something much, much better.

Well, that was slightly different. He wouldn’t do anything about it on his first day because it’ll take a little time. But he’ll let you know what his plans are in two weeks.

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I’m looking at a Congressional Research Service report right now (21pp PDF):

[**Campaign Contributions and the Ethics of Elected Officials: Regulation Under Federal Law**](https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R44447/9)

> The statutory definitions do not expressly include candidates for public office, but may include members-elect since the law covers Members of Congress “either before or after such official has qualified.”

So, the bribery statute doesn’t seem to apply specifically to candidate Trump directly, but…

> Brewster, 506 F.2d 62; Anderson, 509 F.2d at 330. See also Allen, 10 F.3d at 411 (“[A]ccepting a campaign contribution does not equal taking a bribe unless the payment is made in exchange for an explicit promise to perform or not perform an official act. Vague expectations of some future benefit should not be sufficient to make a payment a bribe”).

I don’t know. I doubt we’ve heard the last of this.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Isn’t it illegal for public officials to solicit bribes?

Even if it’s not a bribe, it’s a campaign finance violation. You’d think donald would have a handle on those by now.

[FEC | Candidate | Who can and can't contribute](https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/who-can-and-cant-contribute/#:~:text=of%20the%20candidate-,Who%20can't%20contribute,separate%20segregated%20fund%20are%20permissible))

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I doubt we’ve heard the last of this.

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> Even if it’s not a bribe, it’s a campaign finance violation.

Great! Start the investigation today and maybe the matter can be adjucated sometime before the 2028 election.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Great! Start the investigation today and maybe the matter can be adjucated sometime before the 2028 election.

Seriously. You just know that Merrick Garland is making very firm plans to begin to think about starting investigating this in October 2028 (assuming Biden is reelected).

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As ever: appalling but not surprising.

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Reminds me of Rod Blagojevich on trading President Barack Obama’s vacated U.S. Senate seat for campaign cash: “I mean, I’ve got this thing and it’s (bleeping) golden.”

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> As ever: appalling but not surprising.

This.

Anyway, he doesn’t have to deliver. All he has to do is say he will and collect the money.

Illegal? Who gives a fuck?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Illegal? Who gives a fuck?

He’s counting on a ruling of complete and total immunity for any crimes he commits now, or in the future or past.

Trump believes he is entitled to The Devine Right Of Kings or _Dei Gratia_

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I think we’re watching the most epic temper tantrum thrown by an eight year old ever.

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[Bloodthirsty sod, ain’t he?](https://sg.news.yahoo.com/trump-considers-plan-send-hit-144002374.html)

> Presumptive Republican presidential nominee [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-trial-live-updates-week-082905360.html) is privately considering a plan to deploy American assassination squads to [Mexico](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/mexico) to take out drug cartel leaders if he is re-elected in November, according to a report.
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> Three sources familiar with the former president’s proposal told [_Rolling Stone_](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-mexico-kill-teams-drug-cartels-1235016514/)that he has insisted that the American [military](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/military) has “tougher killers than they do” and is mulling a similar plot to that carried out when US forces killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi back in 2019.
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> The deployment would be covert, the outlet reported, and would not rely on the Mexican government’s consent.
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> Just earlier this year, one source recalled the former president saying that the US government should create a “kill list of drug lords,” consisting of the most notorious heads of drug cartels that a special-ops team would be tasked with killing or capturing, _Rolling Stone_ reported.

You really should read the entire article.

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What makes this particularly scary is that renewables just topped 30% of global energy supplies last year and the fossil fuel gang might be getting nervous enough about it to risk jettisoning democracy.

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It’s just fucking dumb.

It’s not like these companies can turn on a dime or operate solely in the US. They appreciate stability and predictability in regulations when some of the projects can take years to bring online. If they have to worry things will just change again in a few years, that’s just another headache. And many of them see the future coming and have been trying, albeit slowly, to transition into renewables themselves.

From a business perspective, Trump has got to look questionable. I’ve no doubt they’d love stable, long term conservative policies. But Trump is not stable, doesn’t plan jack for the long term, and he doesn’t have coherent policies.

And that’s ignoring the subtext - the first taste is free. If/when he gets re-elected, the next time it’ll be a shakedown. They better pay up the next time (and the time after that and again the time after that and so on) or else…

No friggin’ wonder at least one of them leaked.

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Never mind - early morning, no coffee yet.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He’s counting on a ruling of complete and total immunity for any crimes he commits now, or in the future or past.

Good point. Sadly, he’s probably not being unrealistic to count on this.

So as long as this story remains in the news, we have the Republican Six Justices having to put their fingers in their ears and go ‘lalalalalalala’…

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_(The links in this post go to Yahoo! News, HuffPost, and Telemundo.)_

[He’s still mangling the English language.](https://us.yahoo.com/news/critics-facepalm-both-hands-trumps-065219574.html)

> [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) got a helping hand or two from critics after the former president described himself as “ambidextrous” in a [Telemundo 51 interview that aired Thursday](https://www.telemundo51.com/noticias/local/entrevista-exclusiva-donald-trump-juicio-campana-hijo-barron-stormy-daniels-vicepresidente/2538147/).
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> Trump, following a question about separating his legal trouble from his family time, said he’s able to “put it aside” before adding that he’s “very ambidextrous, so to speak.”
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> “I can do a lot of things at one time,” Trump said. “And I’m willing to do and able to do things and lots of different things.

By now someone has to have made a trumperish (trump + gibberish) to English translator.

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