# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> And yeah, I always thought it was a bit weird. I was a lot more conservative back then and never voted for him, but even I thought it was cool that we could elect someone who wasn’t your stereotypical White candidate. But everyone (left and right) were pretending as if he wasn’t White at all, when he was just as White as he was Black.

Conversely, I remember telling my parents about Obama back when he first appeared on the scene in 2007 (as a Doper, I was much more engaged with U.S. political news than they were back then). After explaining his somewhat unique background, my mom suddenly laughed and said, “Why, he’s about as black as I am!”

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
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There is the scene in the musical Showboat where the female star performer is arrested for miscegenation, and her husband cuts her hand, sucks in some blood and then swears that the marriage is legal because he also “has black blood in him.”

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
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He took as much racial shit as someone with two black parents so I think it is safe for the left to hold him up as an example of a great African American.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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I suspect that as someone of mixed race, he probably took **more** racial shit than someone with just Black parents.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
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It doesn’t matter how you identify, it matters what the people walking toward you think your identity is.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> Yeah. I grew up in Dixie, so I’m well aware of the “one drop” rule and the racist nonsense (“The robin doesn’t mate with the blue jay”), not to mention the local love of the extra-biblical interpretation of “the curse of Ham”.

Not forgetting the use made of the “sheep” and “goats”:

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> # 
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> Matthew 25:31-33
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> King James Version
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> 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
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> 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
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> 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Somehow it always turned out that white people and White Culture and white-whatever were “on his right hand” and others…well, you know.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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Yeah, I know. Of course, race had not a thing to do with that bit of Scripture until the racists decided it did.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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Right, Monty; that’s the annoying part.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@susan](#):
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> It doesn’t matter how you identify, it matters what the people walking toward you think your identity is.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7pxGDSucCEI/maxresdefault.jpg "Cops In Redmond") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxGDSucCEI)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
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I thought I was the only person who posted _Almost Live_ videos here!

Did you know the guy in the sunglasses was nominated for an Oscar?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I thought I was the only person who posted _Almost Live_ videos here!

I grew up watching _Almost Live_. Bill Nye will always be Speed Walker, and Joel McHale will always be the “new kid”.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Did you know the guy in the sunglasses was nominated for an Oscar?

Bob Nelson? Yeah, for _Nebraska_. Also, he went to the same high school as my parents in-law; they knew him in school.

My wife’s coworker (she works for King County) used to be a producer on the show back in the day, and appeared in a couple of sketches too.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I grew up watching _Almost Live_ . Bill Nye will always be Speed Walker, and Joel McHale will always be the “new kid”.

Heel. Toe. Heel! Toe!

There was also a game show parody called _Who Killed JFK Today?_ that I always think of when people start spouting conspiracy theories. Nye’s theory was that Kennedy was killed by a tiger.

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> My wife’s coworker (she works for King County) used to be a producer on the show back in the day, and appeared in a couple of sketches too.

Pat Cashman did a podcast recently catching up with all the cast members and sharing some behind-the-scenes stories. It was interesting.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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The hypocrisy, it burns:

> **[Eric Trump Pleaded The Fifth More Than 500 Times In Deposition, Court Filing...](https://www.aol.com/finance/eric-trump-pleaded-fifth-more-005458246.html)**
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> The former president's son was interviewed by the New York attorney general's office in its civil probe into the Trump Organization.

And see: [Five Times Donald Trump Has Bashed Pleading The Fifth | MTP Daily | MSNBC - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyh7ko9L2g)

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And see: [Five Times Donald Trump Has Bashed Pleading The Fifth](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyh7ko9L2g)

Yabut, the people he was bashing were guilty. He wasn’t talking talking about true patriots!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Or idjit sons.

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On a side note, I’ve just gone down a Google rabbithole on “pleaded” vs “pled”. Apparently “pleaded” is preferred. Huh.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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In my experience, “pled” is much more common, but YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
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So what’s the past tense of “tread”? Would it be treaded or tred?

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Trod.

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