# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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I’ve also called him Gonzo Bronzo when he’s going off on a particularly unhinged rant and you can’t tell what the fuck he’s saying.

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Mangos and melons are good for people.  
Maybe something more unpleasant to associate with him.  
Trumpster fire?

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I believe you’re right about Trump not particularly wanting to become President but figure he wanted to enhance his brand – kind of like “Oscar-nominated” for an actor. It would open up whole new avenues of grift for him – think how easy getting new business loans would be.

My conspiracy theory — or it’s the _opposite_ of a conspiracy, because the whole point is that there never _did_ turn out to be someone on the same page as the guy — is that he was doing that thing we’ve seen him do plenty of times since, where he (a) never actually comes out and says he wants someone to break the law but (b) makes it pretty obvious that he’d sure like for someone to break the law.

Namely, that he wanted someone to offer him a lot of money if he’d endorse Candidate X while dropping out of the race; he’d then loudly and often proclaim that he would’ve totally won if he’d stayed in, or he’d bask as a kingmaker if the endorsee wins; but, either way, he’d have, y’know, all that money on top of all that publicity.

But, to his astonishment, the payoff offer never came; day after day, week after week, he kept asking himself why none of these idiots were offering him what he would’ve gladly _accepted,_ but would never _request_: I mean, I want the money, and you have the money, and you want my endorsement, and I can’t believe you’re not getting that this is the part where you make the winning move…

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Does anybody else think that Trump will boast about the high quality of the mangolini coming out of the Mar-a-Lago restaurant on Italian Night?

Served with red sauce (i.e., ketchup).

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Also fun: His Spraytanic MAGAsty

I was noticing during his court appearances he wasn’t as orange as he used to be plus the racoon eyes were not as prominent. I was wondering if he’d been persuaded to dial it back a bit or perhaps because the lighting was florescent tubes so common in government buildings.

> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> commercials had wonderful jingles

I think you misspelled earworms but then, that was their purpose.

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Namely, that he wanted someone to offer him a lot of money if he’d endorse Candidate X while dropping out of the race

I think you may be onto something. A more immediate payoff _and_ a large lump sum. He’d be all over that like a fly on shit.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I was wondering if he’d been persuaded to dial it back a bit or perhaps because the lighting was florescent tubes so common in government buildings.

It may have been also because they have evidence of what happens when you spend too much time in court and go overboard on trying to color yourself.

[![](https://ncnewsline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Rudy-Giuliani-hairdye-1536x1024-1.jpg) ](https://ncnewsline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Rudy-Giuliani-hairdye-1536x1024-1.jpg)

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Another Galaxy brain idea from the Stable Genius (™).  
Let’s put football coaches and race car team owners in charge of the military.

> **[Trump Suggests That Maybe Race Team Owners And Football Coaches Could Do Wars](https://jalopnik.com/trump-says-hell-replace-military-generals-with-race-car-1851604739)**
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> "Let me use these guys to guide our military a little bit. When you win so many races, that's OK."

WARNING❗WARNING❗WARNING❗WARNING  
Actual text from his speech contains contaminated word salad. Ingestion or reading may cause brain damage, mental derangement, or violent upset!

_“How are you doing? It’s amazing. It’s so amazing. We should send you into, I’ve always said get some of these guys. I have a lot of friends in that world. I don’t know. I think, isn’t Roger Penske, like, a great guy? The guy won 20 Indianapolis 500s. This guy (pointing to Childress) wins all the time. I mean, we appreciate talent. I said, ‘Let me use these guys to guide our military a little bit. When you can win so many races, that’s OK, you know? You guide. Same thing with coaches. You take some of the greatest football coaches, you put them at the table. ‘What do you like, coach?’ Because in it’s own way it’s not so much really different.”_

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I think you may be onto something. A more immediate payoff _and_ a large lump sum. He’d be all over that like a fly on shit.

Given who we’re discussing here, “like shit on a fly” is more apt.

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Hey, hey, hey. Even flies have _some_ sense of self-respect.

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He does.not.quit.grifting.ever.

> [@Trump at Truth Social](#):
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> I’m pleased to announce my new Book, “SAVE AMERICA.” As everyone knows, the first two, “Our Journey Together” and, “Letters to Trump,” have been spectacular successes, and this is the BEST OF ALL, especially in light of the fact that we are now living in a Failing Nation, but it will not be failing for long. We will soon, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/lRN7oip.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/Ejz3ODt)

The incredibly long “About the Author” section on the Amazon page is amazing, and chock full of his signature random capitalizations. Obviously someone trying to copy his style since I can’t believe he wrote that many words. Here’s the first bit.

> [@](#):
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> DONALD J. TRUMP launched the Most Extraordinary Political Movement in History, dethroning Political Dynasties, defeating the Washington Establishment, and becoming the first True Outsider elected as President of the United States. The Forgotten Men and Women of America were forgotten no more, because the U.S.A finally had a President who PUT AMERICA FIRST!

And it can be yours for only $99! Hey - it’s 360 pages - a bargain.  
[Save America: Trump, Donald J: 9798990290624: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Save-America-Donald-J-Trump/dp/B0D9HS4CWN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=39JLSG7XKG9R8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mwiCInfxfcHHBP5cGcbdtPdmGiYgiVeXADJhjUknMKncVJ0x8YUp-JV-Tkog7_NV9ISz5HlYuXoayoKyqKAdTc0ymUTpzfdLH7F0jzVcdrhKK4ewkrKbDBMvdzmEksIBATV01ybQhRVHmCdWZ01striKQ9oXMr9LMiCK_u8W8-sTdrIm1cMiWGH2lVRrtwlkE6MKrLkFg9XCYshRm-kK8YXCLYhgfFafBA-C6mRVibTGt8wlMn5knELJFHc8cgVtB0zJRlaeGrbcskcv4maltOqwtZtrR-pe6ItfO0p_SHY.3psbydIisHO5KMRZ2FrRpmjftIjnOLgo3CaYgmUUhqE&dib_tag=se&keywords=save+america&qid=1721948808&sprefix=save+america%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-1)

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That’s a good price, for all the lies, egomania and boasting it gets you.

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I’m not seeing whether Sharpies/crayons are included or not.

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Wotta Revoltin’ Development this is.

I’ve seen this reported on several sites, and, like them, I’m amazed this hasn’t been more generally picked up by the media:

> [@](#):
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> [Donald Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/t/donald-trump/), the former president who double downed on his ambitions of [being a dictator](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-doubles-down-dictator-day-one-1234922468/), told a crowd gathered in West Palm Beach on Friday that if elected for a second term, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”
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> At the Florida summit, hosted by conservative group Turning Point Action, Trump promised that if he wins in November, he would “once again appoint rock-solid conservative judges who will protect religious liberty.”
> 
> After repeating his usual [unfounded claims](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-trumps-claims-election-integrity/story?id=109171415) about mail-in voting, Trump launched into an appeal directed at Christian voters. “Christians, get out and vote!” yelled Trump. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians!” He added, “You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.”

Talk about “saying the quiet part out loud”!

> **[Trump Tells Christians They Won't Have to Vote in Future: 'We'll Have It Fixed'](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-if-reelected-wont-have-to-vote-fixed-1235069397/)**
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> Donald Trump told a crowd gathered in West Palm Beach on Friday that if elected for a second term, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

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I call that mighty bold talk for a one-eared fat man.

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Love the reference to ‘True Grit’.

What Trump means is ‘The fix is in’. More corruption obviously.

“The fix is in” is an American idiom that means the outcome of something, like a contest or game, is being controlled or affected in a dishonest way

He tried it once, he will try it again. And he’s telling us that’s what he will do.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> And it can be yours for only $99!

I was looking for the reviews and then found out it won’t even be released until September. So once again he’s selling vaporware – collect the $$$ up front and Lord knows what, if anything, will ever actually be delivered (like his sneakers, bibles and campaign promises).

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This is an old one, but I just stumbled across it in the book I’m reading:

> [@](#):
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> I’d come across an episode of _The Howard Stern Show_ where Donald Trump said that if his wife Melania was in a car accident, his first response would be, “How are the breasts?”

Way to stay classy, Donnie.

From Lisa Lehr, **A Boob’s Life: How America’s Obsession Shaped Me… and You** Pegasus Books 2021 p. 162

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’ve seen this reported on several sites, and, like them, I’m amazed this hasn’t been more generally picked up by the media:

I did see it reported this morning (either on CNN or MSNBC–I tend to do a lot of flipping. By now both may have covered it).

Yes, Trump is openly crowing about his plan to end democracy. I’d be curious to know how the crowd received this–loud cheers? Scattered applause as they took it in?

If the Trump/Vance campaign is going to openly use the “Let’s End Voting!!!” theme, they will succeed in bringing out quite a few independents and moderates who don’t always bestir themselves to vote—and this time they will do so for the Democrats. (And of course it will also bring out the most right-wing extremists _ **for** _ Trump, too.)

A search of “my beautiful Christians” and “Trump” shows the story on all the outlets—the networks, Reuters, NYT, WaPo, etc. Here’s a three-minute CNN report posted to YouTube: (I broke the link by putting a space before that last w, as I can’t recall how to make these show up in Discourse.)

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngy\_VknAfX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngy_VknAfX) w

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I did see it reported this morning (either on CNN or MSNBC–I tend to do a lot of flipping. By now both may have covered it).

Since I originally posted about it, it became the headline at the Huffington Post, so someone was paying attention.

As of now, it still is their headline

[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-christians-wont-have-to-vote-anymore\_n\_66a46c8be4b015f7c2ba6d6](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-christians-wont-have-to-vote-anymore_n_66a46c8be4b015f7c2ba6d6)

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The Atlantic is covering it:

(Supposed to be a gift link-- not sure if it really is.)

> **[Trump Says Americans ‘Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ If He Wins](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/07/trump-vote-believers-summit/679273/?gift=QgO_LHw-skz7EqtMG0lcxsuYCcD3G4TwQfZYVMre14Y&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> He’s telegraphing his authoritarian intentions in plain sight.

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