# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 389
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7782 "2024-08-10T00:19:49Z")
So we can add to the long list of people that Trump does not pay… Airplane mechanics. That one could be a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7783 "2024-08-10T00:54:34Z")
I understand he barely survived. Had his fist raised (had to blow up the picture to actually see it) in triumph as he cheated death (contractors, wifes, business partners, …) yet again. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7784 "2024-08-10T01:37:14Z")
So, I’m watching CNN, and some Cheato Apologist is claiming it would be easy for anyone to mistake [Willie Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=buVkx5F6&id=201D2FA54F42C7DEB10095BBDB09DAB3DA6937AB&thid=OIP.buVkx5F6YmjXfOu3R4t5GQHaKr&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.6ee564c7917a6268d77cebb7478b7919%3Frik%3Dqzdp2rPaCdu7lQ%26riu%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fhungarianfreepress.com%252fwp-content%252fuploads%252f2016%252f10%252fWillie-Brown.jpg%26ehk%3DLKXapNeyVkyYqOPvuLez%252bXXcmQQJqHQio%252bgcOodiuug%253d%26risl%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=3000&expw=2081&q=willie+brown&simid=608032649660549975&FORM=IRPRST&ck=93A7DEEF01067672D628867851D43C83&selectedIndex=10&itb=0&cw=1527&ch=744&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0) for [Jerry Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bDA9AwIl&id=B1A0145F8DFB91BE5822B66DEF023B97F496F664&thid=OIP.-DA9AwIlDf9IVK-gt9_MPgHaE_&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fmediaproxy.salon.com%2fwidth%2f1200%2fhttps%3a%2f%2fmedia.salon.com%2f2018%2f10%2fjerry-brown2.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.f8303d0302250dff4854afa0b7dfcc3e%3frik%3dZPaW9Jc7Au9ttg%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=810&expw=1200&q=jerry+brown&simid=607994518980725313&form=IRPRST&ck=B67CC86A7B03E87719704D3319960169&selectedindex=6&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0&first=1) Seems legit. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7785 "2024-08-10T01:41:38Z")
Yeah but neither had that experience with him. He freaking dreamed it or out and out made it up out of his Big Mac brain mush. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7786 "2024-08-10T03:01:53Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > So, I’m watching CNN, and some Cheato Apologist is claiming it would be easy for anyone to mistake [Willie Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=buVkx5F6&id=201D2FA54F42C7DEB10095BBDB09DAB3DA6937AB&thid=OIP.buVkx5F6YmjXfOu3R4t5GQHaKr&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.6ee564c7917a6268d77cebb7478b7919%3Frik%3Dqzdp2rPaCdu7lQ%26riu%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fhungarianfreepress.com%252fwp-content%252fuploads%252f2016%252f10%252fWillie-Brown.jpg%26ehk%3DLKXapNeyVkyYqOPvuLez%252bXXcmQQJqHQio%252bgcOodiuug%253d%26risl%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=3000&expw=2081&q=willie+brown&simid=608032649660549975&FORM=IRPRST&ck=93A7DEEF01067672D628867851D43C83&selectedIndex=10&itb=0&cw=1527&ch=744&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0) for [Jerry Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bDA9AwIl&id=B1A0145F8DFB91BE5822B66DEF023B97F496F664&thid=OIP.-DA9AwIlDf9IVK-gt9_MPgHaE_&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fmediaproxy.salon.com%2fwidth%2f1200%2fhttps%3a%2f%2fmedia.salon.com%2f2018%2f10%2fjerry-brown2.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.f8303d0302250dff4854afa0b7dfcc3e%3frik%3dZPaW9Jc7Au9ttg%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=810&expw=1200&q=jerry+brown&simid=607994518980725313&form=IRPRST&ck=B67CC86A7B03E87719704D3319960169&selectedindex=6&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0&first=1) MAGA supporters are really good at grasping straws. I’m still amazed Trump’s followers are willing to smile while eating his bullshit and then ask for seconds while smiling brightly. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7787 "2024-08-10T03:11:30Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > MAGA supporters are really good at grasping straws. I’m still amazed Trump’s followers are willing to smile while eating his bullshit and then ask for seconds while smiling brightly. This is an actual exchange between me and a Trump Cultist friend. [[Album] imgur.com ![](https://i.imgur.com/S1eKUQG.jpeg?fb "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/a/gP3duqp) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7788 "2024-08-10T03:49:18Z")
Okay, I’m not sure where to post this, so I hope this thread is appropriate. I was interrupted while watching a Downfall parody that was posted in one of our thousand Trump/politics threads today, and now I can’t find it. It was from X and I had gotten as far as Hitler telling the three people to remain in the room, the last of whom was that My Pillow guy. Would someone please point me to the post so I can continue watching it? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7789 "2024-08-10T03:51:34Z")
> [@Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/1234): > > Vance has been Downfalled! [[mein fuhrer —] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEO9p8OVMQ) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7790 "2024-08-10T03:52:59Z")
Thanks! You were already my hero, so now you’re my extra special hero. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7791 "2024-08-10T04:27:02Z")
Aw. ‘Tweren’t nothin’. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7792 "2024-08-10T14:03:41Z")
Yes, thank you for sharing that! Man, that is the meme that keeps on giving. The Vance version does not disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7793 "2024-08-10T14:06:17Z")
It was **EddyTeddyFreddy** who shared it. I only pointed to it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7794 "2024-08-10T14:07:17Z")
Ah, good point. A hearty thanks to @EddyTeddyFreddy too! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7795 "2024-08-10T19:31:30Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > So, I’m watching CNN, and some Cheato Apologist is claiming it would be easy for anyone to mistake [Willie Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=buVkx5F6&id=201D2FA54F42C7DEB10095BBDB09DAB3DA6937AB&thid=OIP.buVkx5F6YmjXfOu3R4t5GQHaKr&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fth.bing.com%2Fth%2Fid%2FR.6ee564c7917a6268d77cebb7478b7919%3Frik%3Dqzdp2rPaCdu7lQ%26riu%3Dhttp%253a%252f%252fhungarianfreepress.com%252fwp-content%252fuploads%252f2016%252f10%252fWillie-Brown.jpg%26ehk%3DLKXapNeyVkyYqOPvuLez%252bXXcmQQJqHQio%252bgcOodiuug%253d%26risl%3D%26pid%3DImgRaw%26r%3D0&exph=3000&expw=2081&q=willie+brown&simid=608032649660549975&FORM=IRPRST&ck=93A7DEEF01067672D628867851D43C83&selectedIndex=10&itb=0&cw=1527&ch=744&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0) for [Jerry Brown](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bDA9AwIl&id=B1A0145F8DFB91BE5822B66DEF023B97F496F664&thid=OIP.-DA9AwIlDf9IVK-gt9_MPgHaE_&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fmediaproxy.salon.com%2fwidth%2f1200%2fhttps%3a%2f%2fmedia.salon.com%2f2018%2f10%2fjerry-brown2.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.f8303d0302250dff4854afa0b7dfcc3e%3frik%3dZPaW9Jc7Au9ttg%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=810&expw=1200&q=jerry+brown&simid=607994518980725313&form=IRPRST&ck=B67CC86A7B03E87719704D3319960169&selectedindex=6&itb=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0&first=1) > > Seems legit. I saw that. The guy’s theory was that not only do they look alike (they really do NOT), but they were both best known as “Bay Area Leftist Mayors.” Someone on the CNN production team apparently did some quick searching to find that famous-for-CA-Gov-stints Jerry Brown had, at one point, been the mayor of Oakland (which is across the bay from San Francisco where _Willie_ Brown had been mayor). As always, the first requirement for Trump apologists is the possession of Abject Shamelessness. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7796 "2024-08-10T19:53:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Read the rest of it. You’ll love his flack’s response. “Slick Willie!” That’s so amusing that the Trump flack had a Trump brain moment and confused derogatory slogans. So either 1. Trump is outright lying about being in a helicopter with Willie Brown, former mayor of San Francisco. 2. He confused names with calif. Governor Jerry Brown, who did take a helicopter ride with Trump and Gavin Newsome, but that one did not “almost crash”. It was a normal flight, though Trump was repeatedly discussing the possibility of crashing. 3. His helicopter flight with Willie Brown was in New York City, but somehow Willie Brown doesn’t recall it and never talked about it, even though he has a reputation as a storyteller. 4. Everybody else is lying to make Trump look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7797 "2024-08-10T19:53:11Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > The guy’s theory was that not only do they look alike 🤨 I mean…even beyond the obvious. Other than the fact that they’re now both old and balding. [![](https://www.detroitnews.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2024/08/09/PDTN/74735565007-willie-brown-jerry-brown-2-up.jpg?crop=811,456,x0,y0&width=811&height=405&format=pjpg&auto=webp) ](https://www.detroitnews.com/gcdn/authoring/authoring-images/2024/08/09/PDTN/74735565007-willie-brown-jerry-brown-2-up.jpg?crop=811,456,x0,y0&width=811&height=405&format=pjpg&auto=webp) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7798 "2024-08-10T20:03:54Z")
Trump lies about everything. Why wouldn’t he lie about this? It’s sad, but he seems to have reached the point where he doesn’t even know he’s lying. Or he can’t keep all the lies straight. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7799 "2024-08-10T20:04:10Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > I mean…even beyond the obvious. Other than the fact that they’re now both old and balding. Right, there’s no resemblance beyond the ‘older balding male’. The GOP shill’s claim that they are easily confused is transparently a lie. But as has been discussed elsewhere, the mystery appears to be solved: Trump DID ride in a helicopter with a black man and there was trouble with the flight. It was someone not yet mentioned (a California state senator): > [@](#): > > … On Friday night, Politico reported that Nate Holden, a former Los Angeles city councilman and state senator, said he had once ridden with Trump in a helicopter heading to New Jersey that almost crashed. > > “Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden told Politico. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.” … Holden doesn’t recall the date but thinks it happened about three decades ago. [https://www.wdtn.com/news/politics/ap-politics/ap-trumps-tale-of-a-harrowing-helicopter-ride-and-emergency-landing-didnt-happen-willie-brown-says/](https://www.wdtn.com/news/politics/ap-politics/ap-trumps-tale-of-a-harrowing-helicopter-ride-and-emergency-landing-didnt-happen-willie-brown-says/) And note that the stinger of Trump’s helicopter story— **the whole point of his telling it** —was that supposedly the Democrat he was riding with trashed Kamala Harris. If it happened in the 1990s (with that state senator) it’s tough to envision how the guy could have been trashing Harris----who never held office until 2003 (as DA for San Francisco). ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7800 "2024-08-10T20:42:16Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > It’s amazing that rusty old pile of shit hasn’t just fallen out of the air yet. The plane too. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7801 "2024-08-10T20:52:14Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > It’s sad, but he seems to have reached the point where he doesn’t even know he’s lying. Yeah, not a phycologist in anyway shape or form. But some believe their own lies. Trump makes up bullshit out of… not even whole cloth. Barely threads with no truth. He will see it in the headlines the next day, and as long as the word ‘Trump’ in in there somewhere, it must be the truth. This, I think is why real business people in NY point and laugh at him. NY may eventually save us from this… what should I say? Adjectives are actually getting tired of Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=388) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=390)