# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 393

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7862 "2024-08-16T16:18:14Z")

</div>

Trump really does turn everything to shit. Awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the likes of Devin Nunes and Gym Jordan is a sick joke.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7863 "2024-08-16T16:32:23Z")

</div>

> [@enipla](#):
>
> why are people that are richer than god, worried about taxes and wealth?

My guess would be that the traits that made you a billionaire – business savvy, competitiveness and relentless greed – don’t switch off just because you pass a certain threshold of wealth.

And if you’ve inherited your billions, your single largest financial incentive is to protect them.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7864 "2024-08-16T16:50:23Z")

</div>

> [@Akaj](#):
>
> the traits that made you a billionaire – business savvy, competitiveness and relentless greed

The real-world evidence suggests that becoming wealthy is at least 50% luck, if not more. It is no accident that the term for a lot of money is “a fortune”. Really rich people are at least partly aware of this fact (as shown by the fact that they reject its validity with vehemence) and are keen to protect their winnings as much as possible.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7865 "2024-08-16T17:36:45Z")

</div>

> [@enipla](#):
>
> …why are people that are richer than god, worried about taxes and wealth?  
> I guess it’s more about their identity compared to other people that are richer than god?

Yeah. When you have too much money to actually spend, it becomes all about keeping score. About your position on the Forbes 400 list of the richest people.

Trump has been, infamously, obsessed with this list.

> **[Trump gets kicked off Forbes 400 list of richest Americans | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/04/business/trump-forbes-400-trial/index.html)**
>
> As Donald Trump scrambles to defend his business empire in court, the former president has suffered another blow: dropping off The Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans.

> [@Monty](#):
>
> The melon felon’s response when his allies try to get him to focus on actual campaign issues? [“I’m entitled!” (AOL link.)](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-m-entitled-personal-attacks-220148185.html)

Oh, yes. The news the past couple of days has been full of ‘Trump campaign officials are trying to get Trump to stick to policy issues and drop the insults’ because they know the insults lose him votes among the crucial undecided/swing voters.

But Trump knows he’s entitled to his fun. The fear of prison would be the only thing that could cause him to give up that fun—and he’s been assured that GOP officials in the states will contest the election, throwing it to the House of Representatives (where he’s assured of victory because the vote happens by state delegation, not by Reps.).

His win is a lock. So he won’t give up his fun!

> **[Trump’s Contingent-cy Plan - Sabato's Crystal Ball](https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/trumps-contingent-cy-plan/)**
>
> GOP remains highly favored if no presidential candidate gets 270 electoral votes and the House decides the presidency

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7866 "2024-08-16T17:46:14Z")

</div>

> [@aurora\_maire](#):
>
> Too bad the people who need to hear it, won’t.

Maybe they will… The Military Times has an [online front page article about it.](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/08/16/trump-belittles-medal-of-honor-award-in-campaign-speech/)

ETA: Ditto the Air Force Times has it as the top story right now. Ditto Navy Times, Marine Times – though it looks like the same story for all three.

ETA2: All the Times papers are from the same publisher, [rated unbiased by a site I checked.](https://adfontesmedia.com/military-times-bias-and-reliability/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7867 "2024-08-16T17:59:23Z")

</div>

> [@Sherrerd](#):
>
> he’s been assured that GOP officials in the states will contest the election, throwing it to the House of Representatives (where he’s assured of victory because the vote happens by state delegation, not by Reps.).

\< aside \> Are there ANY red state delegations that would refuse to throw an election for the sake of the Cheeto-faced dictator? It would just take a couple who actually put the country over one single mentally declining individual. I mean, there must be SOME who would see that this might just be a poor idea going forward, right?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7868 "2024-08-16T18:07:42Z")

</div>

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
>
> Are there ANY red state delegations that would refuse to throw an election for the sake of the Cheeto-faced dictator? It would just take a couple who actually put the country over one single mentally declining individual. I mean, there must be SOME who would see that this might just be a poor idea going forward, right?

That’s right, but the Contingency Election plan (as described on the Center for Politics page linked in my post) requires only that no single candidate win 270 votes—and even if some battleground state officials don’t play along with the Trump plan, enough likely will so that the ‘throw the election to the House’ strategy could work.

As I’m sure you know, Georgia is currently under a microscope for its recent changes to election rules–changes that Mr. Disgraced Convicted Felon publicly applauded:

> [@](#):
>
> … You may remember Donald Trump’s rally at Georgia State University on August 3. That was the speech in which he attacked Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, and, for good measure, Kemp’s wife. What was noteworthy, though, was the fellow Republicans he _praised_. He lauded three newly appointed members of the state election board. “They’re on fire. They are doing a great job,” he declared.
> 
> Three days later we learned why he was so effusive. The state officials [announced a new rule](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/election-deniers-continue-attempts-meddle-certification-process-resilient) to require county officials across Georgia to conduct a “reasonable inquiry” before they can certify results.
> 
> That is a permission slip for subversion. …

I think there’s a thread that goes into this in detail (not sure whether in the Pit or in P&E) so I’ll leave it at that–but both the Sabado link and the one here are worth reading for those wondering what Donald is thinking about his chances of victory despite, quite possibly, losing the popular vote by MANY millions.

> **[Election Deniers on the March in Georgia](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/election-deniers-march-georgia)**
>
> A new state rule previews the plan to reverse the 2024 presidential results.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7869 "2024-08-16T19:02:28Z")

</div>

> [@enipla](#):
>
> I admit, I don’t know much about this, but why are people that are richer than god, worried about taxes and wealth?
> 
> I guess it’s more about their identity compared to other people that are richer than god?

Pretty much. It isn’t about wanting to actually use it to buy things, they can get anything they want so material possessions are irrelevant. its about keeping score. To them the value of someone as a person is directly proportional to their wealth. So the the only real purpose they have for their money is to use it to make more money.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7870 "2024-08-16T19:08:36Z")

</div>

> [@enipla](#):
>
> I admit, I don’t know much about this, but why are people that are richer than god, worried about taxes and wealth?

IKR? Her wikipedia article says that she’s a philanthropist, but howzabout going for _HIGHER_ taxes and being a benefactor to the nation?

(P.S. IKR? is an initialism that can be translated as: “I Know, Right?”)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7871 "2024-08-16T19:59:10Z")

</div>

Palm Beach Florida residents [are annoyed at](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/watch-palm-beach-mayor-wants-mar-a-lago-club-closed/ar-AA1oVxp4) road closures around a certain property, caused by security concerns. The property is right next to one of the main roads onto the barrier island that is Palm beach, at its intersection with the main north/south road. Essentially, closing that road makes large parts of Palm Beach difficult or impossible to access – and there _are_ other people living in that area. So, the city council is considering ordering that property closed, so that people’s lives and fall tourism will not be disrupted for the sake of some pseudo-rich guy.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7872 "2024-08-16T20:13:10Z")

</div>

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> To them the value of someone as a person is directly proportional to their wealth. So the the only real purpose they have for their money is to use it to make more money.

It’s a very sad thing that that they measure their worth is in $.

People that have no self value other than how others see them are clearly dangerous.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7873 "2024-08-16T20:33:35Z")

</div>

> [@commasense](#):
>
> Miriam was Sheldon’s second wife, and gave him his second set of children, although she’s only twelve years younger than he was, so not exactly a typical “trophy wife.”

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
>
> More importantly, she’s wealthier than he is.

She’s also a medical doctor, working at one time at a Tel Aviv ER and later specialized in helping drug addicts. Her mentor and colleague was the person who developed methadone therapy for heroin addicts. So yeah, I don’t think “trophy wife” applies.

I will say, though, that it’s probably a good thing that Trump is acquainted with a drug addiction specialist, since his administration handed out controlled substances to staffers like it was candy. Maybe introduce her to Elon while he’s at it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7874 "2024-08-16T20:39:08Z")

</div>

> [@eschereal](#):
>
> The real-world evidence suggests that becoming wealthy is at least 50% luck, if not more. It is no accident that the term for a lot of money is “a fortune”. Really rich people are at least partly aware of this fact (as shown by the fact that they reject its validity with vehemence) and are keen to protect their winnings as much as possible.

The other 50% involves a lot of pulling up their bootstraps.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7875 "2024-08-16T23:42:56Z")

</div>

When the poors don’t even have and can’t afford the bootstraps to pull themselves up with, things might have gone a little too far.

Just a smidge.

Not that the ‘we earned everything we have’ crowd would ever admit it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7876 "2024-08-17T16:08:06Z")

</div>

You’ve got to _invest_ in bootstraps if you want to get anywhere in life. That’s why I’ve created #Bitstrapcoin. Invest now and you’ll be able to pull yourself up today!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7877 "2024-08-17T17:58:32Z")

</div>

Was #Ponzicoin already taken?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7878 "2024-08-18T01:50:59Z")

</div>

Probably, along with #YetAnotherWayToGriftYouSuckers.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7879 "2024-08-18T10:12:02Z")

</div>

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
>
> P.S. IKR? is an initialism that can be translated as: “I Know, Right?”)

But what does P.S. mean?!

(Kidding)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7880 "2024-08-18T15:41:45Z")

</div>

“Taking the piss?”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7881 "2024-08-18T16:25:45Z")

</div>

huh

[![](https://preview.redd.it/w6osv8sacfjd1.jpeg?width=750&auto=webp&s=ee00775eb744eccb7f1506c9a216ec447a4e1616) ](https://preview.redd.it/w6osv8sacfjd1.jpeg?width=750&auto=webp&s=ee00775eb744eccb7f1506c9a216ec447a4e1616)

Does one encounter electric sharks once off the deep end?

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=392)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=394)
