# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 395
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7902 "2024-08-19T20:17:37Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Are you arguing that if manufacturing jobs come back, that Americas manufacturing costs will come down to what foreign countries pay? That’s not going to happen. > > The reason things made in foreign countries are cheaper is that workforces aren’t paid nearly the same amount, and US legislation for safety and such aren’t in effect. OH, it will happen under a Trump administration. Because of child labor, eliminating unions, crushing the minimum wage, eliminating overtime, and basically creating a class of wage serfs who are paid peanuts. Also, elimination of those pesky safety standards that get in the way of profits. This is the GOP dream scenario. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7903 "2024-08-19T20:37:46Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > As things are now, we (the U.S.) are, in a sense, importing shoes and electronics, and exporting worker injuries and polution to those same places. Not to mention exporting the greenhouse gas emissions that go into making those same goods. (The EU has a border-adjustment mechanism for carbon that is due to go into effect in a couple years.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7904 "2024-08-19T20:38:54Z")
Draft-dodging Donald is doubling down on “Medal of Honor winners are gross and it’s better when hot people get medals”. > ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7905 "2024-08-19T20:42:04Z")
He will never learn to keep his mouth shut when he needs to. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7906 "2024-08-19T20:51:12Z")
“Post-humus-ly” yup Donnie, sometimes they get one after they’re buried. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7907 "2024-08-19T22:21:31Z")
Um… did I hear correctly?? Did that Asshole claim to have “given many” CMOH? I did a quick and anything-but-thorough search, and couldn’t find ONE he “presented”. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7908 "2024-08-19T22:40:33Z")
Okay. I found one he presented in 2020. Thomas Payne. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7909 "2024-08-19T22:56:10Z")
Rush Limbaugh received the Medal of Freedom from Trump too. It’s a worthless honor now. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7910 "2024-08-19T23:03:57Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > > if, indeed, he ever knew. > > I bet you a dollar\* Donald NEVER knew how tariffs work. > > Ten to one he just thinks talking about it makes him sound important and smart. > > . > . > > \*Not really, as we’re not allowed to bet here. I’ll bet you a hundred to one that he still doesn’t know. \*Same disclaimer (with the addition I don’t bet in the first place. 🙂 ) > [@Rebo](#): > > He will never learn to keep his mouth shut when he needs to. _Sometimes what is not said is more powerful than what is said._\* This is something the melon felon will never understand because he is completely incapale of shutting the fuck up. \*Something (I think) I came up with about a year ago. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7911 "2024-08-20T02:47:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Of course. There’s probably a very interesting debate to be had about tariffs, what their impacts would be, and how they might change global manufacturing. The discussion of who actually pays the tariffs is a hijack of that debate. That Donald Trump is participating in the hijack tells me he’s forgotten why he wanted tariffs in the first place. So tariffs would encourage bringing manufacturing jobs back to America. But Amercans are also screaming about inflation. Right now that is louder than the clamor for manufacturing jobs. And tarriffs will increase inflation. > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Personally, I’ve always wondered if the U.S. could mandate that factories which produce goods that are exported to the U.S. be required to follow U.S. standards for worker safety and environmental regulations. Conforming to those standards would probably raise their costs, and make them less competitive against U.S. companies, but wouldn’t actually be a tariff. IIRC that was part of NAFTA. Still not equal footing because wages can be substantially lower, but still valuable because Americans are supposed to care about those things, so it isn’t honest to not push for those things for imports. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7912 "2024-08-20T03:02:14Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > And tarriffs will increase inflation. No problem. It’s well known that all inflation is Bidens fault. (Disclaimer: In Canada all inflation is Trudeaus fault) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7913 "2024-08-20T03:08:24Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > But Amercans are also screaming about inflation. Right now that is louder than the clamor for manufacturing jobs. And tarriffs will increase inflation. It’s simple, really. The Republicans, the ‘Party of Responsibility’, wants everything for free. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7914 "2024-08-20T04:03:57Z")
[Former Law Clerk](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/legal-experts-call-maga-lawyers-bluff-after-lawsuit-threat-for-labeling-trump-a-felon/ar-AA1p47Fv) for Gorsuch, > [@Mike Davis](#): > > Dear Media and Other Democrat Operatives: Fair warning: Calling Trump a ‘convicted felon’ is defamatory. You may get sued. says we need to change our thread title. Dumbshit. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7915 "2024-08-20T04:11:03Z")
One of the defenses to a defamation claim: the defense of truth. Sorry, Mike. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7916 "2024-08-20T06:20:00Z")
> [@Mike Davis](#): > > Dear Media and Other Democrat Operatives: Fair warning: Calling Trump a ‘convicted felon’ is defamatory. You may get sued. Umm Mike? Might want to spend some time explaining to your conservative friends the difference between _defamation_ and _defamation per se_. Ya know, so they’ll understand that if they call Democrats child molesting “groomers” they’ll have less defenses to a defamation charge then the folks that are calling Trump a convicted felon do. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7917 "2024-08-20T11:54:06Z")
The melon felon has a question for the American public: [_Why are we having an election?_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-trump-unsettling-why-175119806.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) > “You know, they do polls on this stuff, and I’m at like 93%,” [Trump said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBWYGOGw7s), referring to surveys that apparently exist in his imagination. “I said, ‘So why are we having an election? They didn’t have an election. Why are we having an election?’” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7918 "2024-08-20T12:57:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “You know, they do polls on this stuff, and I’m at like 93%,” [Trump said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBWYGOGw7s), referring to surveys that apparently exist in his imagination. “I said, ‘So why are we having an election? They didn’t have an election. Why are we having an election?’” Donald Trump : “If I get elected you’ll never have to vote again” ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7919 "2024-08-20T13:37:43Z")
> [@Mike Davis](#): > > Calling Trump a ‘convicted felon’ is defamatory. The Trump shouldn’t have gone around committing felonies. It’s a fact. Stating a clear fact cannot be legally defamation. It may not make the person look good, but it’s not defamation. Now if we called him a convicted rapist, we might be in a little trouble. Technically, that was a civil judgement against him, not a criminal one. But we are on clear ground to state he has a civil judgement against him for sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7920 "2024-08-20T14:35:12Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > e melon felon has a question for the American public: [_Why are we having an election?_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-trump-unsettling-why-175119806.html) that picture, jayzuss [![](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ajpeAAccWjfn5qe1JWQOyw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNjAw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/msnbc_articles_593/fc9b5151de1c418798b3195f3fb0738e) ](https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ajpeAAccWjfn5qe1JWQOyw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTI0MDA7aD0xNjAw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/msnbc_articles_593/fc9b5151de1c418798b3195f3fb0738e) Yeah, you can capture _anyone_ in an embarrassing pose, but he seems to be the best at providing them. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/7921 "2024-08-20T14:39:10Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > creating a class of wage serfs who are paid peanuts … but will still vote for Republicans to keep out the godless brown commie groomers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=394) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=396)