# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 406
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8122 "2024-08-29T05:40:15Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I would be very skeptical he gives a shit about his estate. He’ll be dead, he doesn’t see a dime of that money. Now, if he could gin up a scheme where he _pre-sells_ tickets to visit his _future_ grave, that’s a different matter. His kids, on the other hand, absolutely give a shit about his estate and will probably maul each other to death trying to steal every dollar for themselves. He raised them in his own image. They will milk his death for every last cent they can squeeze out of it. They’ll probably build an amusement park around his gravesite. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them paid the kid on the roof that took off part of his ear. They have no more empathy for him than he does for them. I’m sorry. Perhaps that sounds cynical. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8123 "2024-08-29T05:46:14Z")
Oh, sure, sure, no disagreement. But Trump won’t choose his future gravesite on the basis of its being useful to his kids’ grift. If he chooses Arlington, which will be impossible for them to monetize, it’ll be for his own reasons, and he’ll shrug off his kids’ complaints. “Sucks to be you. Find another way to make money.” It’s a nest of snarling hyenas, for sure. You can’t be cynical enough about them. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8124 "2024-08-29T05:48:26Z")
This is true. If he can, he’ll screw each and every one of them in death. There’s nobody more vengeful than daddy. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8125 "2024-08-29T08:40:50Z")
I saw the mother of the soldier he visited on MSNBC and it sounded like she invited him. What I can’t get past is the thumbs up and the smile. In what universe is that appropriate? ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8126 "2024-08-29T09:11:07Z")
A draft-dodging Ex-Pres who called vets “losers/suckers/idiots”, and then has nerve to lay wreaths at cemetery. Of course it was just political/publicity stunt to call out Biden/Harris for Afghanistan, he wasn’t sincere ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8127 "2024-08-29T09:45:20Z")
Are there any pictures of him visiting the gravesite in 2022 or 2023? I’d bet some money he did not. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8128 "2024-08-29T12:21:39Z")
Some of y’all are cute thinking Trump thinks he’ll ever actually die. He doesn’t want to think about death and, like a lot of unintelligent narcissists, acts like he’ll live forever. He won’t pre-sell tickets to his grave or even choose a gravesite (until/unless it’s painfully obvious even to him he’ll need one), because that would be admitting the possibility of his own death. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8129 "2024-08-29T12:21:53Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > It’s a nest of snarling hyenas, for sure. You can’t be cynical enough about them. Objection to libel against hyenas, not least because hyenas are matriarchal, and the Trump family certainly isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8130 "2024-08-29T12:43:58Z")
His kids will bury him on the golf course next to Ivanka. And then raise the club fees. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8131 "2024-08-29T13:08:19Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Buy a seed for a blade of grass that will be planted on ShitGibbon’s grave, only $249.99 a seed, or $3000 for eleven. I see what you did there! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8132 "2024-08-29T13:14:54Z")
Shit, they’ll charge us to piss on the grave. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8133 "2024-08-29T13:40:55Z")
how much for a season pass? Dan ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8134 "2024-08-29T13:55:34Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Shit, they’ll charge us to piss on the grave. I’ll pay for that. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8135 "2024-08-29T13:58:22Z")
Plus they could make a fortune on selling drinks at the clubhouse beforehand. Gotta load up that bladder if you want to get your money’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8136 "2024-08-29T14:04:55Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Shit, they’ll charge us to piss on the grave. well, as long as it does not cost more to shit on his grave ---
**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8137 "2024-08-29T14:11:19Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I saw the mother of the soldier he visited on MSNBC and it sounded like she invited him. I heard on NPR this morning that the family spoke at the RNC. ETA: Ah, here we go. > Some of those family members also spoke at the Republican National Convention, bashing Biden and vocally endorsing Trump. > > “Joe Biden may have forgotten that our children died, but we have not forgotten, Donald Trump has not forgotten,” said Cheryl Juels in Milwaukee at the RNC in July. Juels is the aunt of Sgt. Nicole Gee, one of the 13 killed at Abbey Gate in 2021. > **[Fallout from Trump’s Arlington National Cemetery visit continues after...](https://www.npr.org/2024/08/29/nx-s1-5092087/trump-arlington-cemetery-altercation-video)** > > The TikTok post from Trump includes video taken at Arlington National Cemetery where campaign activities are prohibited by law and in a section where outside filming and photography is not allowed. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8138 "2024-08-29T14:33:48Z")
Well, unless they make it unaffordable, so will I. But these are trump people, so I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8139 "2024-08-29T15:05:38Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Are there any pictures of him visiting the gravesite in 2022 or 2023? > > I’d bet some money he did not. I also doubt he visited the graves of any of the service members who died in Afghanistan while he was president. Here’s an interesting peek into his time as President: > Bill Owens, the father of William “Ryan” Owens, refused to shake Trump’s hand at that Feb. 1, 2017, encounter, the aide said, and then told Trump that he was responsible for his son’s death for approving the [disastrous raid in Yemen](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-yemen-raid-twitter_n_58ae0acbe4b057efdce8c07c) without bothering to understand the risks. > > “He refused to go back for two years, he was so rattled,” the aide said, adding that the main reason Trump had approved the raid just five days after taking office was that predecessor [Barack Obama](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/barack-obama) had refused to do so. > > What’s more, Trump made the decision at a social dinner that included his son-in-law and top adviser, [Jared Kushner](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/jared-kushner), and then-chief strategist Stephen Bannon, rather than his National Security Council staff. > > “You can count on one hand the number of times Donald Trump has been to Dover,” said Jon Soltz, chairman of the progressive political group VoteVets and an Iraq War veteran. “There simply is no bottom when it comes to what he’ll lie about. I wish there was more outrage about Trump lying about the dignified transfer of the fallen for political reasons, because as a veteran it really disgusts me.” > **[Trump Stopped Going to Dover AFB To Receive Bodies After Getting Berated On...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-dover-afb-returning-soldiers-bodies-lie_n_5f4ebdc9c5b6250f655c1ca8)** > > Vice President Pence attended "dignified transfer" ceremonies for two years by himself after the father of a slain SEAL "rattled" Trump In February 2017. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8140 "2024-08-29T15:22:24Z")
the army has released a statement: [US Army rebukes Trump campaign for incident at Arlington National Cemetery | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/29/politics/us-army-rebukes-trump-campaign-arlington-incident/index.html) the army’s take is rather different than team trump’s. i can understand the employee not wanting to press charges…not what i would do, however understandable when there are many examples of what can happen to you. i am less understanding of the army not pressing this and pushing to have any video taken in violation of the rules destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8141 "2024-08-29T15:28:46Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i am less understanding of the army not pressing this and pushing to have any video taken in violation of the rules destroyed. It’s already out there - it’d be a futile gesture. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=405) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=407)