# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8182 "2024-08-31T17:11:54Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Not Trump. Bobby D was right: Justice is a game in this land.

One Hundred Percent. With some have greater percentages than others.

It’s the other golden rule. “Those that have the gold, make the rules”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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Wasn’t the person shoved a civilian employee?

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To my knowledge, she was Army. That’s why the Army defended her.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> For once, he was the second most disgusting person there.  
> The first was the boy’s mother, who sold her vote and her soul (and her son’s body) to the man who called her son and his compatriots “losers, suckers and idiots”.

I thought the dead soldier was a woman?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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I blame the drugs.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> And now trump is backtracking on his latest claim of preserving abortion rights.

And to continue the recent mention of journalists giving Trump a pass: today I’m seeing lots of stern faces talking about Harris “flip-flopping” on her position on fracking. Yet **not one word** about what Trump JUST did (flip-flop on how he’d vote on the Florida measure). Or at best, they cover Trump’s quick reversal in some other part of the hour—as though it has no connection to the '_oooo, Harris said something different in 2019’_ story.

Do we have a ‘how journalists are covering the 2024 election’ thread? I think maybe we need one. They may not possess as much disgracefulness as Trump—but they’re gaining on him fast.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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The rich people own all or most of the media and they want trump because he lowers their taxes. So we end up seeing this bullshit pushed to us as normal when trump does it, but abnormal if Harris does anything similar.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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Yes, sad to say, you’ve probably explained that particular discrepancy in coverage.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Do we have a ‘how journalists are covering the 2024 election’ thread?

I would follow that thread.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8190 "2024-09-01T01:18:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Wasn’t the person shoved a civilian employee?

[And I realled correctly.](https://newrepublic.com/post/185415/trump-fight-arlington-national-cemetery-official-retaliation) (The link goes to _The New Republic_.)

And why didn’t she press charges? (Same link; however, the **bolding** is mine.)

> The assaulted cemetery employee was a woman, and she didn’t want to press charges because **she was afraid of retaliation from Trump supporters**.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8192 "2024-09-01T02:25:29Z")

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Ah, you’re talking about assault charges specifically for the person who did the shoving, and **that** I understand.

You can’t go literally pushing people around like that, especially when it’s an authority figure trying to enforce the rules.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Love that soldier’s mute statement, **eschereal**.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
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There have been numerous instances of signs that people are holding being lettered to suit the needs of the person sharing the image. In this case, it looks a lot like the sign is genuine, as the letters show a little bit of shape distortion, as if they really were on the card (and the soldier’s name tag has been redacted). Not that we lack the software to make it look real, but here it looks real.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Love that soldier’s mute statement, **eschereal**

Yes! @Hari_Seldon mentioned seeing it on FB in a different thread and I was going to link his post, but @eschereal has supplied the actual image!

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> You can’t go literally pushing people around like that, especially when it’s an authority figure trying to enforce the rules.

Let me know when the shover gets charged or fined. Until then, it looks like you can do just that.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8197 "2024-09-01T11:19:35Z")

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And the really appalling thing about why the shover isn’t getting charged is because the victim is afraid of Trump’s crazy supporters.

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Then they should get GOV protection. I guess there is no real way to do this anonymously?

And, this wouldn’t be against Trump directly, just one of his toadies. His supporters probably won’t care. But we do have to think about the election workers that had to move a few times and put on disguises.

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This Arlington Bullshit has me curious: At what point (if any) does The Secret Service detail ever step in and say, _“Uh, Sir, You really shouldn’t be doing this.”_

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> At what point (if any) does The Secret Service detail ever step in and say, _“Uh, Sir, You really shouldn’t be doing this.”_

I would actually hope they didn’t. Not that it wouldn’t be the right thing to do, because morally it clearly would be, but that seems way outside the scope of their job. It’s probably better for them to stay neutral on anything in any way political, no matter what it is. And the way he decides to hold a campaign event and photo op is unambiguously political.

I’m sure that they see worse stuff all the time that never gets reported on.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Not that it wouldn’t be the right thing to do, because morally it clearly would be

Yeah, they are there to protect him from outside threats, not from himself.

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