# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> I managed to stand it by doubling the playback speed so it was over in 4 1/2 minutes. The surgeon explaining it was matter of fact yet managed to convey a lot of scorn and ridicule.

So you sped it up. Did the surgeon sound like one of Alvin and the Chipmunks? 😉

More seriously, what other US President has had a documentary made about his hair?

Aside to @BippityBoppityBoo : thanks for taking one for the team.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> "…it’s like, friends of mine that are, like, English professors, they say, ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen.’”

And not a soul bothered to ask him to name one such English professor friend?

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> I managed to stand it by doubling the playback speed so it was over in 4 1/2 minutes.

In my book, that’s _still_ five minutes too much of Trump.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> And not a soul bothered to ask him to name one such English professor friend?

That’s one thing I’ve noticed. Maybe it’s because I’m a Doper, but where are the people, the media, etc., calling for cites? Oh, they have fact-checkers explaining things after the fact, but when Trump comes out with something that is obviously BS, why is nobody calling, “Cite!” immediately?

There was a clip on TV yesterday, where Trump is being interviewed for TV (not sure what network, what station, but it was mainstream media), and he’s saying “There are six states where babies can be executed after they are born.” Complete BS, of course, but why did the interviewer not ask him which states those were? She just stood there and let him ramble.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8225 "2024-09-02T06:45:20Z")

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Many times a nerwork will say, “trump said, without evidence X.” I always want them to call all this shit lies.

Babies are not “executed” after birth anywhere ln the US as policy. This is a lie. It is not a statement, “witout evidence,” he doesn’t care about or need evidence for a lie. He just repeats it over and over until it sounds (to some credulous fools) like the truth.

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If we’re talking about the same clip, he specifically mentioned Minnesota as one of the states that allows a baby to be killed after its born.

ETA: I found a [cite](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-florida-abortion-ban-amendment-vote/).

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> In my book, that’s _still_ five minutes too much of Trump.

Nary a word from trump. Pics of his ridiculous hair over the years and diagrams of the grafts and transplants.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Did the surgeon sound like one of Alvin and the Chipmunks? 😉

Like a chipmunk huffing helium, but discernible.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And not a soul bothered to ask him to name one such English professor friend?

“Some of the best English professors. They love me, the professors, even though the colleges are liberal, the professors all know how smart I am. Because I make sense, common sense, with all the speeches that I do. The people all know what I’m saying, I have to say it, someone needs to say it.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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You forgot to mention the tears in their eyes.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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At least the Welsh, Irish and Scottish professors have more sense.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You forgot to mention the tears in their eyes.

I avoid clichés like the plague.

My point was really that asking Trump to name the professors who complimented him is useless. He’s not going to name anybody; he’s going to launch into whatever meaningless blather pops into his head. The journalists who interview him are smart enough to know that. There is no point in asking Trump a question, since he’s not going to answer it. There’s even less point in asking him a follow-up.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8233 "2024-09-02T12:21:18Z")

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He’s either stumbled upon or learned a pretty good trick-bombarding someone with bullshit.Hard to fight it.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> That’s one thing I’ve noticed. Maybe it’s because I’m a Doper, but where are the people, the media, etc., calling for cites? Oh, they have fact-checkers explaining things after the fact, but when Trump comes out with something that is obviously BS, why is nobody calling, “Cite!” immediately?

I attribute it to his wording, “… _I have friends who are **like** English professors …_”. Not friends who **are** English professors, just, **like** English professors. Corduroy jackets with leather elbows and glasses with black nylon frames. They look like professors and can spin a good line of BS, but they are just randos.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> He’s either stumbled upon or learned a pretty good trick-bombarding someone with bullshit.Hard to fight it.

[There’s a name for that.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop)

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> He’s either stumbled upon or learned a pretty good trick-bombarding someone with bullshit.Hard to fight it.

To be fair, just about all politicians do the same thing; not answering questions that are put to them, but launching into a prepared talking point on a vaguely related subject.

Trump, however, takes it to another level. He controls the narrative. Go ahead and ask him a follow-up question; he won’t answer it, and you’ll have missed whatever new piece of misinformation he has spewed. You’ll contantly be playing cacth up. Interviewing Trump is like nailing Jell-O to a tree.

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Yes, it’s called the Trump Trot because no one’s ever done it or heard of it before he did it. According to him. /s

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and when Trump tried to say she “gave him permission to photograph”, that’s not her call

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> To be fair, just about all politicians do the same thing; not answering questions that are put to them, but launching into a prepared talking point on a vaguely related subject.
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> Trump, however, takes it to another level. He controls the narrative. Go ahead and ask him a follow-up question; he won’t answer it, and you’ll have missed whatever new piece of misinformation he has spewed. You’ll contantly be playing cacth up. Interviewing Trump is like nailing Jell-O to a tree.

Does anybody remember this? The US press needs to be more like the Dutch:

[David Packman Show]  
[Ambassador to Netherlands “Shocked” By HIS OWN Lies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8gm6i1z9kw)

> Pete Hoekstra, US Ambassador to the Netherlands, admits he was wrong to say Dutch politicians have been burned and that there are “no-go zones” in the Netherlands

The Dutch reporters wanted Hoekstra to name specific examples of any of this and wouldn’t let him move on.

In another interview clip, Hoekstra says his comments about this are “Fake News” even though they’re on tape.

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In the U.S. they have learned (for the most part) not to give interviews to people they don’t already control.

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In general, the British press are pretty hard-nosed too.

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