# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 417
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8342 "2024-09-09T14:39:03Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > but I could see them reacting as if it’s real I’m sure they will be when Trump hits on them. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8343 "2024-09-09T15:24:05Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I’m sure they will be when Trump hits on them. well, there was this > _Girls in my day, they didn’t say ‘ew’, they would say, ‘why do they call this plane the Lolita Express?’ And we’d say, ‘don’t worry about it, sweetheart.’ Never ‘ew’.’ JD Vance is ‘weird,’ he’s my special boy.”_ ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8344 "2024-09-09T16:10:01Z")
Interesting piece on how the media is “Sanewashing” TRump’s incoherent outbursts: > [@](#): > > Aaron Rupar, a journalist who is very active on X, has [been](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=f4ede4c204&e=b672b2d662) [credited](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=5e4ee1b86d&e=b672b2d662) with coining “sanewashing” in this specific context, but the term appeared to really blow up last week, after Parker Molloy wrote [a column about it in _The New Republic_](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=3bd8a8efe4&e=b672b2d662). (She [expanded on the idea as a guest on the podcast _Some More News_](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=126bba7e17&e=b672b2d662).) The word has since been picked up by media bigwigs including [Paul Krugman](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=ff7cec857c&e=b672b2d662) and [Rachel Maddow](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=f27c835fe1&e=b672b2d662), and appeared in outlets from [Ireland](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=48779c04d8&e=b672b2d662) to [India](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=10219a3ac2&e=b672b2d662). > > As applied to Trump, the idea is that major mainstream news outlets are routinely taking his incoherent, highly abnormal rants—be they on social media or at in-person events—and selectively quoting from them to emphasize lines that, in isolation, might sound coherent or normal, thus giving a misleading impression of the whole for people who didn’t read or watch the entire thing. In her column, Molloy called out CNN for sanitizing a Trump screed about tomorrow’s presidential debate and the _New York Times_ for omitting an allusion to a conspiracy theory about vaccines and autism from its summary of a Trump pledge to tap [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=4ef7afad08&e=b672b2d662) to help make health policy; since then, [she](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=89f55210b4&e=b672b2d662) [and](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=dfe2a3fd47&e=b672b2d662) [others](https://cjr.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a23440a018c7ba0619c6f01e6&id=5191ef5a90&e=b672b2d662) have applied the same analysis to coverage of Trump’s incoherent remarks—particularly around the costs of childcare and a proposed Elon Musk–led “efficiency commission”—at an economic forum in New York. “This ‘sanewashing’ of Trump’s statements isn’t just poor journalism,” Molloy wrote. “It’s a form of misinformation that poses a threat to democracy.” > **[‘Sanewashing’ protects Trump and imperils America](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/9/9/2268898/-Sanewashing-protects-Trump-and-imperils-America?utm_campaign=trending)** > > I’m highlighting two stories from the Columbia Journalism Review today. For many DK readers, the situations that these stories describe aren’t exactly news. But they deserve every bit of attention they can get given the need for long-term solutions... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8345 "2024-09-09T16:23:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > If only that were true! It does have a high score on the Satire Convergent Adjusted Reality Estimate (SCARE) index. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8346 "2024-09-10T01:12:26Z")
“They’re so weird” isn’t really that different from “ew”, so it’s actually pretty close to the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8347 "2024-09-10T02:13:09Z")
I can’t find the article now, but Trump had a speech where he insisted Walz is weird. ‘I’m not weird. _you’re_ weird!’ ‘No puppet! No puppet! _You’re_ the puppet!’ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8348 "2024-09-10T04:36:15Z")
He was accufessing to his own accufessing, right there in the open. Oh, Ouroboros, you taunt us. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8349 "2024-09-10T21:27:40Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > “The chosen one” is odd phrasing. Very odd and weird phrasing. Not when you’re a god. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8350 "2024-09-10T21:59:04Z")
All the ‘the chosen one’ talk is giving me The Bard’s Tale flashbacks. Well, not flashbacks so much as earworms. Oh, it’s bad luck to be you. A chosen one of many isn’t new When you think you’re full of luck in the bullock’s you’ll get struck Oh, it’s bad luck to be you. and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8351 "2024-09-11T12:04:37Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Not when you’re a god. I’m having flashes to the end of Ghostbusters. “Are you a god?” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8352 "2024-09-11T12:53:14Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I’m having flashes to the end of Ghostbusters. “Are you a god?” Do god’s go squish…? > ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8353 "2024-09-11T22:49:11Z")
Maybe it does not really belong in this here thread, but it is a classic that needs to be appreciated. I am given to understand that this, like many magazines, usually puts more words on the cover, such as would highlight content inside. [![](https://www.joeydevilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/october-2024-atlantic-cover.jpeg) ](https://www.joeydevilla.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/october-2024-atlantic-cover.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8354 "2024-09-12T02:27:39Z")
October issue already? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8355 "2024-09-12T06:26:19Z")
Political messaging aside, that is some beautifully-done artwork. Positively lush. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8356 "2024-09-12T10:36:01Z")
[I think that it’s only fair that ABC be allowed time to respond to Rump.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9bqtlWphXA&t=1031s) ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8357 "2024-09-12T18:43:44Z")
ISTM that one more crime I haven’t seen Trump called out for here or in the media is his repeated claim, in the debate and elsewhere, that he will negotiate a deal to end the Ukraine war _before_ he’s inaugurated. Our lawyers will correct me if I’m wrong, but AFAIK, that would be a violation of the [Logan Act](https://www.britannica.com/event/Logan-Act), which prohibits private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. If he were an incumbent, he’d be free to conduct foreign policy after election day, whether he won or not. But he’s a private citizen until the moment he’s sworn in. He was accused of possibly doing this when he [met with Orban last spring](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-logan-act-viktor-orban-meeting-1924738). So once again, he’s admitted his intention to break the law. Why hasn’t anyone called him out on this? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8358 "2024-09-12T18:48:12Z")
Because nobody believes he has any actual intention of doing so, nor has he made any actual moves to do so. Any charge against him in that way would only help him claim he’s being unjustly persecuted. Compared to the hundreds of other lies and threats he’s made, this one ranks waaaaay down the list. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8359 "2024-09-12T20:04:42Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I am given to understand that this, like many magazines, usually puts more words on the cover… No words needed for that gorgeously horrible cover. That is a ‘picture is worth a thousand words’ situation, right there. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8360 "2024-09-12T20:09:22Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Because nobody believes he has any actual intention of doing so, nor has he made any actual moves to do so. He has a concept of a plan to move to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8361 "2024-09-12T20:12:40Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > AFAIK, that would be a violation of the [Logan Act](https://www.britannica.com/event/Logan-Act), which prohibits private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. If he were an incumbent, he’d be free to conduct foreign policy after election day, whether he won or not. But he’s a private citizen until the moment he’s sworn in. > > He was accused of possibly doing this when he [met with Orban last spring](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-logan-act-viktor-orban-meeting-1924738). > > So once again, he’s admitted his intention to break the law. Why hasn’t anyone called him out on this? > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Because nobody believes he has any actual intention of doing so, nor has he made any actual moves to do so. Any charge against him in that way would only help him claim he’s being unjustly persecuted. @Great_Antibob has a point, but the Orban meeting DID happen. No hypotheticals involved there. So I’d say that ‘_everyone knows the Supreme Court has Trump’s back_’ outweighs ‘_nobody believes he’ll do it_’ as the reason that no one has explored convening a grand jury over the violation of the Logan Act. It’s also worth remembering that Trump got away with having his people–then federal employees–violate the Hatch Act up one side and down the other. The entire nation has pretty much gotten used to “INACWTDI” as the principle protecting him against all consequences of his blatant law-breaking. “It’s Not A Crime When Trump Does It,” of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=416) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=418)