# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 422
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8442 "2024-09-18T04:39:28Z")
Just look right over there, Karl. Can you see them? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8443 "2024-09-18T09:29:25Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > They make great pets, but poor toupés. You’re thinking of hares. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8444 "2024-09-18T13:04:43Z")
I remember having shoulder length hare. [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50838451717_06becc95aa_b.jpg "Shoulder length hare") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/190534151@N04/50838451717/) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8445 "2024-09-18T14:42:57Z")
El-ahrairah Is gonna be real unhappy with several of you folks. Not to mention the other fellow…. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8446 "2024-09-18T19:11:15Z")
Weenies. > **[Analysis: Ohio Republicans are being very careful in correcting Trump and...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/18/politics/ohio-republicans-haitian-migrants-trump-what-matters/index.html)** > > Ohio’s Republican Gov. Mike DeWine has avoided specifically criticizing former President Donald Trump or Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance, by name. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8447 "2024-09-19T05:24:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Weenies. Sorry. They are far lower than Dachshunds. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8448 "2024-09-19T20:16:52Z")
Per Heather Richardson Cox, regarding the "eating cats and dogs in Springfield: > That story has gotten even darker as it turns out Vance and Trump received definitive assurances on September 9 that the rumor was false, but Trump ran with it in the presidential debate of September 10 anyway. > **[Vance spread Springfield rumors even after his staff was told they were...](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/09/19/vance-spread-springfield-rumors-even-after-his-staff-was-told-they-were-false-news-report-says/)** > > More than a week ago, Ohio U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance's staff was told by Springfield officials that a racially charged rumor Vance had been amplifying was false, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8449 "2024-09-19T20:21:57Z")
As we well know by now, “utter shamelessness” is the most salient trait of Trump, Vance, and their entire New Republican party. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8450 "2024-09-19T21:25:01Z")
The problem is, they believe their own lies. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8451 "2024-09-19T21:26:02Z")
That, **Sherrerd,** and “imperviousness to the truth if it gets in the way of short-term political expediency.” ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8452 "2024-09-19T21:48:33Z")
One thing I’ve observed from the very beginning of Trump, which continues to this day, is that people struggle to believe that anyone in a position of responsibility could possibly straight up lie so flagrantly. Even when the facts are crystal clear, they want to minimize the behavior, rationalizing that there “must be a kernel of truth” for the assertion made. I’ve seen this tendency even on this Board. It scares me because it works so well for Trump. Even after ten years of flat-out lying, he gets the benefit of the doubt by many, allowing them to minimize the damage inflicted by the lies. Damage that is deep and will take decades to undo. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8453 "2024-09-19T23:19:22Z")
Yep. Trump admittedly has no shame. He doesn’t hold anyone else in enough esteem to care what they think. For him to feel shame, he would have to think himself capable of wrongdoing. But if he wants to do it, it must be right, at least when he does it. Also, shame requires empathy, which he has none. He likely learned this early from his father, as a coping mechanism. If he doesn’t care what others think, they have no emotional power over him. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8454 "2024-09-20T00:49:26Z")
Now Trump keeps threatening – er, ah, vowing to go, oh, so bravely, to the hellhole that is Springfield, Ohio, despite the roving throngs of dark aliens, so he says. Will he actually do that? Would he try to hold a rally there? I can see city officials asking him to stay away and Trump bulldozing over them to go anyway. If he does go, will the mayor refuse to meet with him? Will any venue be willing to let him hold a rally there? Maybe he’ll just do a photo op, strike a heroic pose in front of a police station or city hall, and blither something. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8455 "2024-09-20T01:34:14Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Will any venue be willing to let him hold a rally there? If horror movies have taught us anything, it’s that there’s always an idiot willing to do something stupid. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8456 "2024-09-20T01:38:06Z")
True dat. If he does attempt to hold a rally there, it would be sweet (though unlikely to happen) if nobody attended. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8457 "2024-09-20T01:45:32Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Will any venue be willing to let him hold a rally there? Humane Society, Golden Corral; use your imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8458 "2024-09-20T02:18:46Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Humane Society, Golden Corral; use your imagination Landscaping companies? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8459 "2024-09-20T03:07:19Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > One thing I’ve observed from the very beginning of Trump, which continues to this day, is that people struggle to believe that anyone in a position of responsibility could possibly straight up lie so flagrantly. Bingo. While there are certainly true believers in the MAGA ranks, I think a lot of Trump supporters know he lies and they’re fine with it. JD Vance justified his lies openly and I think MAGA supporters have been doing that for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8460 "2024-09-20T05:18:14Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > If horror movies have taught us anything, it’s that there’s always an idiot willing to do something stupid. No need to reference horror movies. You could just say “Florida”. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8461 "2024-09-20T05:31:43Z")
I thought Florida _is_ a horror movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=421) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=423)