# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 432
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8642 "2024-10-01T21:05:51Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Holy fucking shit, that guy Yarvin is every bit the authoritarian crazy that you guys have been assigning to all conservatives. Isn’t this basically the 2025 project? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8643 "2024-10-01T21:23:45Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I’m quite sure that this is not accurate. It looks like it depends on the type of security. > [@](#): > > On Monday, the acting head of the Secret Service, Ronald Rowe, said security around Mr Trump’s home was now as intense as when he was president. He said he was being provided with the “highest level” of security. It may not be quite the same level when he is out and about but Trump definitely has more than any other nominee or former president. > [@](#): > > “The shift detail is always the same - this is the close protection officers near the president - but then there’s counter-sniper teams, counter-assault teams, counter-surveillance teams,” said Michael Matranga, who worked at the Secret Service for 12 years under Barack Obama. On a day-to-day basis, former presidents wouldn’t have those additional teams, but Trump does, according to Mr Matranga. So, of course, Trump has extra because he’s, well, Trump. It seems everything about him has to be unprecedented. [How much security does Donald Trump get? (bbc.com)](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6255djzj68o) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8644 "2024-10-01T21:47:33Z")
_Mein Projekt 2025_ ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8645 "2024-10-01T21:53:52Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Isn’t this basically the 2025 project? Even older. Yarvin is quite literally looking for a new Final Solution. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8646 "2024-10-01T21:55:30Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s comic book villain level bad Well, of course it. is The guy is practically named after the forest moon where The Empire put its shield generators protecting the renewed Death Star. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8647 "2024-10-01T21:56:15Z")
He’s such a dumbass that I’d believe that he really sad this: # Trump Blames Democrats For Trans Fats In Anti-LGBTQ+ Hate-Rant: “These Fats Were Assigned At Birth, And They Will Stay That Way” ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8648 "2024-10-01T22:11:03Z")
Perhaps you’re thinking of Michael Bendor. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8649 "2024-10-01T22:12:06Z")
Nitpick. Yavin 4 was where the rebel base was in the original _Star Wars._ The moon that the Death Star shield generators were on in _Return of the Jedi_ was Endor. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8650 "2024-10-02T00:09:15Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Isn’t this basically the 2025 project? Project 2025 certainly starts with Yarvin’s ideas. Retake the government by firing all civil servants and replacing them with political appointees. Increase documentation requirements for citizens, limit immigration. Draconian laws controlling women’s health decisions. Reduce voter access by purging voter rolls and making registration harder. But Yarvin’s ideas go much farther. As I said, he wants to eliminate the Constitution and the United States as government. He wants hundreds of small techno enclaves under authoritarian rule by technocrats that have ultimate sovereignty over their enclaves, with no civil rights, without voting. Each enclave has its own rules and full authority and no oversight or appeal mechanism. RFIDs that track everyone everywhere and cameras that all report to police agencies. Every bit of Big Brother monitoring everything. And he calls that freedom. I guess it’s freedom from worrying about politics. His idea for dealing with the people who won’t or can’t work? Make them into biodiesel. No wait, that was a joke. Instead, he wants to trap them in the Matrix. Forced VR existence where they get to “live out happy, meaningful lives”. Because that’s the humane way to deal with undesirables. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8651 "2024-10-02T01:00:25Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > small techno enclaves under authoritarian rule by technocrats that have ultimate sovereignty over their enclaves, And presumably he fancies himself as such a technocrat. It’s amazing that ever since Plato’s philosopher kings, every political philosopher who is designing a political system, (with maybe the exception of Marx) arrives at the inescapable conclusion through logic and reason that the ideal society requires that they should be the one in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8652 "2024-10-02T06:35:43Z")
It just infuriates me that these people think they should decide for everyone. Who gave these entitled little assholes the right to play god for us? If he wants to have his own little techtatoarchy, he can go buy himself a private island and see if he can lure a bunch of idiots to worship him. And why do **all** these assholes want to enslave women as breeding stock!!??? I just loath this attitude. I really can’t even describe how I feel about these self serving, smug, _superior_ /hugesarcasm, slime ball, assholes. Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8653 "2024-10-02T06:48:50Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > And why do **all** these assholes want to enslave women as breeding stock!!??? Easy. Because if they indoctrinate women as breeding stock, then they (that is, those women) will raise children who are similarly indoctrinated. And so on, and so on, and so on. Let’s cut out the middleman, and just call the United States “Gilead” from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8654 "2024-10-02T07:32:54Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > And he calls that freedom. I guess it’s freedom from worrying about politics. “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” The middle part of that quote is, of course, what is applicable to this particular situation. People like Yarvin view Orwell as a guidebook, not a warning. Reversing that to “slavery is freedom” may actually be more accurate though, at least the way it’s being applied here. When you effectively enslave an entire population, remove any public way of addressing grievances or injustices, such as at the ballot box, the authoritarians think that people are simply going to capitulate because all of a sudden they don’t have to worry about things like “choice” or “thinking”. Just do what we say, how we tell you to do it, and don’t ask questions, and everything will be fine… It’s amazing to me sometimes that there’s so many people in this country, and in the rest of the world, that this bullshit still works on. We as a species seem to have forgotten the lessons of WWII. And we are hell bent on repeating these mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8655 "2024-10-02T08:00:41Z")
No message. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8656 "2024-10-02T09:17:01Z")
That’s a succinct description of the melon felon. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8657 "2024-10-02T09:31:24Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > We as a species seem to have forgotten the lessons of WWII. And we are hell bent on repeating these mistakes. If you weren’t involved or born more recently, that’s just old history. Sad, but true. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8658 "2024-10-02T12:01:58Z")
Arguably we didn’t learn those lessons back then, either. The lesson we did seem to learn back then was “war is tough on people, let’s try not to have really big ones again”. THAT lesson, we’re forgetting as the people who do remember it have aged out. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8659 "2024-10-02T15:44:52Z")
The only thing we learn from history is that we don’t learn from history. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8660 "2024-10-02T16:12:39Z")
“History will teach us nothing.” - Sting ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8661 "2024-10-02T16:20:31Z")
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