# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/861 "2022-02-08T18:09:27Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Ben Shapiro says that’s not a thing that can happen . What’s not a thing that can happen? Is there a way to figure out what this is in response to that I’m not aware of? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/862 "2022-02-08T18:48:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > It’s been revealed that the National Archives has obtained several boxes of presidential records that were being stored at Mar-a-Lago improperly. > > This may, of course [violate the Presidential Records Act](https://www.npr.org/2022/02/07/1078940308/trump-boxes-records-mar-a-lago-national-archives). _But her emails…!_ ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/863 "2022-02-08T18:53:55Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > What’s not a thing that can happen? Is there a way to figure out what this is in response to that I’m not aware of? > **[The Meme Responses To Ben Shapiro Claiming Cardi B And Megan Thee Stallion’s...](https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/ben-shapiro-memes-wap/)** > > The internet is awash with Ben Shapiro memes and jokes following his WAP comments. Read more on Grazia. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/864 "2022-02-09T04:55:13Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > That’s actually true, those [Little Kim’s love letters] were among the items recovered. Some of them were probably gunky, I hope the archivist wears gloves. Several reports I saw today mention that the Sharpie Hurricane Map was also there. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/865 "2022-02-09T15:25:03Z")
> **[After Crusade Against Hillary Clinton Emails, GOP Silent On Trump Ripping Up...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-emails-gop-trump-ripping-documents_n_6202c78ae4b050042433bc2f)** > > Where are the "lock him up" chants? > … > One of her [Hillary’s] most persistent critics was Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), who used his powerful perch as chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to [keep on the case of Clinton’s emails](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/13/ron-johnson-continues-focus-fbi-probe-hillary-clinton-emails/515035002/). > > But on Tuesday, Johnson had no comment when HuffPost asked him about revelations that Trump literally ripped up government documents that he was supposed to preserve as president. He said he’d need to read up more on the issue. > > The Presidential Records Act requires the White House to preserve documents related to a president’s official duties. Those materials should have been handed over to the National Archives when Trump left office. > > But last month, the agency [retrieved 15 boxes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/07/trump-records-mar-a-lago/) from his Mar-a-Lago residence, according to The Washington Post. Trump’s team continues to search for more documents. > > Trump also [frequently ripped up documents](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/31/trump-ripped-up-documents/) as president ― actions that could be criminal. Some of the records received by the National Archives had been torn and taped back together. > > Republican senators were far less willing to go after Trump Tuesday than they had been against Clinton for her private email server. > > “I know there are legal requirements, but I really don’t know enough to comment,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said. > > Yet in 2015, Cornyn was very concerned about Clinton’s server, saying it “raises serious concerns for Americans who believe in open government and the accountability of our highest officials.” > > “I can’t comment on that. I don’t know about that,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) similarly said Tuesday. He, too, was [deeply concerned](https://www.c-span.org/video/?465752-3/senator-grassley-clinton-emails) about the proper handling of government information when it came to Clinton. > … [![](https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7968499712/h81A2F5A9/cat-facepalm) ](https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7968499712/h81A2F5A9/cat-facepalm) ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/866 "2022-02-09T15:45:40Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > [After Crusade Against Hillary Clinton Emails, GOP Silent On Trump Ripping Up Documents | HuffPost Latest News](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-emails-gop-trump-ripping-documents_n_6202c78ae4b050042433bc2f) > > > … > > One of her [Hillary’s] most persistent critics was Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), who used his powerful perch as chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to [keep on the case of Clinton’s emails](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/13/ron-johnson-continues-focus-fbi-probe-hillary-clinton-emails/515035002/). > > > > But on Tuesday, Johnson had no comment when HuffPost asked him about revelations that Trump literally ripped up government documents that he was supposed to preserve as president. He said he’d need to read up more on the issue. > > > > The Presidential Records Act requires the White House to preserve documents related to a president’s official duties. Those materials should have been handed over to the National Archives when Trump left office. > > > > But last month, the agency [retrieved 15 boxes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/07/trump-records-mar-a-lago/) from his Mar-a-Lago residence, according to The Washington Post. Trump’s team continues to search for more documents. > > > > Trump also [frequently ripped up documents](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/31/trump-ripped-up-documents/) as president ― actions that could be criminal. Some of the records received by the National Archives had been torn and taped back together. > > > > Republican senators were far less willing to go after Trump Tuesday than they had been against Clinton for her private email server. > > > > “I know there are legal requirements, but I really don’t know enough to comment,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said. > > > > Yet in 2015, Cornyn was very concerned about Clinton’s server, saying it “raises serious concerns for Americans who believe in open government and the accountability of our highest officials.” > > > > “I can’t comment on that. I don’t know about that,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) similarly said Tuesday. He, too, was [deeply concerned](https://www.c-span.org/video/?465752-3/senator-grassley-clinton-emails) about the proper handling of government information when it came to Clinton. > > … > > [https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7968499712/h81A2F5A9/cat-facepalm](https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7968499712/h81A2F5A9/cat-facepalm) What? Republicans are hypocrites? Who knew? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/867 "2022-02-09T16:16:12Z")
Shocking. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/868 "2022-02-09T16:44:49Z")
Well, they’re not saying that they actually _approve_ of Trump destroying records. They’re just saying that they are too stupid to understand the simply legal requirements, or that they cannot read, or that they don’t know anything. So their argument is that they don’t know anything because they’re dumb as a sack of hammers. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/869 "2022-02-09T17:00:43Z")
And besides, “Donald, who?” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/870 "2022-02-09T23:53:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Well, they’re not saying that they actually _approve_ of Trump destroying records. > > They’re just saying that they are too stupid to understand the simply legal requirements, or that they cannot read, or that they don’t know anything. So their argument is that they don’t know anything because they’re dumb as a sack of hammers. It’s vanishingly rare for Republican arguments to exhibit such undeniable plausibility. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/871 "2022-02-10T07:45:07Z")
I almost did myself an injury laughing so hard at the story of Tan the Conman’s destruction of official records. When Congresswoman Pelosi tore up a copy of the speech, Tan the Conman bleated that she broke the law by tearing up an official record. Well, no, not at all. What she tore up was a copy of an official record. What the Tan the Conman tore up were actual records. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/872 "2022-02-10T07:51:19Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Were you, though? Can any of us truly be said to be “happy?” Perhaps “”happiness” can be measured. I propose a unit (a small one, natch) called Anti-Trumps to measure “happiness.” I like it. And it inspired me to come up with a unit for orangeness: 100 _lies_ would be completely orange. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/873 "2022-02-10T08:16:44Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I like it. And it inspired me to come up with a unit for orangeness: 100 _lies_ would be completely orange. Is that like 100 cents in a dollar? I can see it now: Republican A: Can you loan me an orange? Republican B: Sorry, I’ve only got 75 lies. Republican A: Darn! Hey, Republican C, can you loan me an orange…? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/874 "2022-02-10T12:47:22Z")
He didn’t just tear up documents, he flushed them down the White House toilet: > **[Maggie Haberman book: Flushed papers found clogging Trump White House toilet](https://www.axios.com/2022/02/10/maggie-haberman-book-trump-papers)** > > Axios was provided an exclusive first look at some of Haberman's forthcoming book. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/875 "2022-02-10T14:33:57Z")
As ever, appalling but not all that surprising. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/876 "2022-02-10T14:46:08Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > He didn’t just tear up documents, he flushed them down the White House toilet: Suddenly it all makes sense. > [@Donald Trump](#): > > People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/877 "2022-02-10T15:21:04Z")
I had the exact same thought! And then I banished it from my mind as it brought forth images of Trump on the toilet. Blech ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/878 "2022-02-10T15:50:29Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Suddenly it all makes sense. > > > [@](#): > > > > People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once. Trump: “Scotty, I need more water pressure! My embarrassing/incriminating documents won’t flush!” Scotty: “I’m giving her all I got sir!” (Note: Funnier if read with the voice of Willie from The Simpsons. Couldn’t figure out verbiage. Also there’s a Penguin from Batman joke somewhere in here.) Goddamn when did reality turn into a SNL sketch? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/879 "2022-02-10T15:59:58Z")
Maybe in some Dantean afterlife, where the punishment fits the crime, demons will be tearing the soul of Donald Trump into confetti-sized pieces and flushing him down Hell’s own toilet, over and over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/880 "2022-02-10T16:44:22Z")
The existence of Trump does pose a philosophical problem for those theologians supporting the idea of ironic punishment in the afterlife. He has so many sins of such variety that it will be difficult to punish him ironically for all of them at the same time. I suppose he could be torn up and flushed down a toilet while in front of a crowd of people laughing at his tiny mushroom, at the same time a giant pile of money lies tantalizingly out of reach… But it all gets a bit complicated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=45)