# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 441
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8822 "2024-10-12T02:23:20Z")
Trump’s just going all-in with this and I can’t see it ending well for anyone: > **[Trump’s Rally Just Went Full Nazi With Bloodthirsty Immigration Threat](https://newrepublic.com/post/187115/donald-trump-rally-nazi-bloodthirsty-immigration-threat)** > > Donald Trump drilled down on his racist, xenophobic vitriol during a rally. > “But I protect you from outside enemies. But you know I always say, we have the outside enemies, so you can say China, you can say Russia, you can say Kim Jong Un … if you have a smart president it’s no problem,” Trump [said](https://x.com/justinbaragona/status/1844840170228494459). “It’s the enemy from within. > > “All the scum we have to deal with that hate our country,” he continued. “That’s a bigger enemy than China and Russia.… Everyday Americans like Cindy are living in fear all because Kamala Harris decided to empty the slums and prison cells of Caracas, and many other places. Happening all over the world.” > > \< snip \> > > “Every country, you know, prison populations all over the world are down. Crime all over the world is down. Because they take the world’s criminals, gang members, drug dealers, and they deposit them into the United States. Bus after bus after bus,” Trump said to a cacophony of boos from the crowd of his supporters. > > \< snip \> > > “They took the criminals out of Caracas, and they put them along your border, and they said if you ever come back, we’re going to kill you,” Trump said. > > “Think of that!” he [continued](https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1844837420233375750). “We have to live with these animals. But we won’t live with them for long!” > > At that, one person in the crowd [shouted](https://x.com/KyleClark/status/1844837420233375750), “Kill them!” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8823 "2024-10-12T02:45:48Z")
^ Absolutely chilling. > [@Atamasama](#): > > From a legal perspective, treason involves helping an enemy when the nation is literally at war… The Constitution doesn’t actually say that: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.” You can have enemies - we do now - and not literally be at war with them. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8824 "2024-10-12T03:11:50Z")
I cannot believe this kind of shit isn’t all over the media. There should be billboards with these quotes on them and his big, fat, ugly face. I mean I know “this is just his schtick” but hasn’t he crossed a line here? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8825 "2024-10-12T03:17:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > You can have enemies - we do now - and not literally be at war with them. I think the issue, from a legal perspective, is who defines what countries are “enemies” for purposes of convicting a person of treason? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8826 "2024-10-12T03:19:33Z")
The U.S. Government in charging someone, but then a jury in determining guilt or innocence. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8827 "2024-10-12T03:36:26Z")
He’s pissed me off today by naming his deportation mission Operation Aurora. Nooooooooooo!!! I don’t want my name in his mouth. > [@Trump on Truth Social](#): > > We are now known, all throughout the world, as OCCUPIED AMERICA…But to everyone here in Colorado and all across our nation, I make you this vow: November 5th, 2024 will be LIBERATION DAY in America. I will rescue Aurora and every town that has been invaded and conquered—and we will put these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail or kick them the hell OUT OF OUR COUNTRY. In honor of Jocelyn Nungaray, Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, and all of the others that are dead and mortally wounded at the hands of migrants who should never have been allowed into our Country, I am announcing today that upon taking office, we will have an OPERATION AURORA at the Federal Level. To expedite removals of this savage gang, I will invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to target and dismantle every migrant criminal network operating on American Soil. It’s actually a fucking brilliant name for it. Aurora means dawn or daybreak. The dawn of a new age. Makes me almost wonder if his team had a hand in events in Aurora CO just to use the name. You know, creating stories. But I don’t really think they are that clever. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8828 "2024-10-12T03:49:11Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He’s pissed me off today by naming his deportation mission Operation Aurora. Nooooooooooo!!! I don’t want my name in his mouth. One of his kids shares my name. There aren’t enough hot showers in the world to scrub that away. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8829 "2024-10-12T04:16:52Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > There should be billboards with these quotes on them and his big, fat, ugly face. Not a good plan. You get TFG in the news all the time and everyone is thinking about him all the time, which makes a lot of people vote for him just because his name is in their heads. Voting is supposed to be rational, but across the voting populace, it is not. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8830 "2024-10-12T04:54:05Z")
So at this point I’ve really got to ask what is his plan is regarding this rhetoric. From most benign to malignant, I see 1. He just realizes that spouting red meat motivates his base, he either doesn’t realize or doesn’t care that this could lead to real violence so long as he gets them to the polls. 2. he his hoping the the threat of violence will keep Dems from going to the polls 3. He is trying to egg people into violence because the idea of motivating someone to kill on his behalf turns him on. 4. He’s hoping that he can motivate someone to assasinate Kamala Harris before the election. 5. He’s hoping to motivate his base enough that if he loses the election they will revolt and start a civil war 6. He actually believes what he is saying. He’s basically Hitler wants to exterminate the Untermench. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8831 "2024-10-12T05:02:58Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So at this point I’ve really got to ask what is his plan is regarding this rhetoric. > > From most benign to malignant… I have no doubt he is aiming for #6 and use #5 to get there but he will take whatever he can get. I can’t imagine that man having anything but pure self-interest foremost in his mind for all things. He wants it all with the minimum amount of effort on his part and zero concern for any other consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8832 "2024-10-12T05:03:01Z")
All of the above? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8833 "2024-10-12T05:06:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > 1. He is trying to egg people into violence because the idea of motivating someone to kill on his behalf turns him on. Almost. He is trying to egg people into violence to prove that “those” people are animals and therefore he should be elected. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8834 "2024-10-12T05:19:41Z")
I suppose you’re right. It’s not that I was thinking his demented rhetoric is new to anyone w/ any level of cognition. Just that it dawned on me in a new way, how surreal and frightening this situation has become. Maybe we’ve all become so numb to his blathering that when he turns up the crazy we don’t notice. What’s the media’s excuse? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8835 "2024-10-12T05:41:18Z")
Me too. What really needs to happen is to have every non-right wing News broadcast break their regular programming to have an editorial session explaining that while they usually try to remain neutral reporters and simply inform the American people without taking sides, there is a point at which there is no longer two sides to an issue. One thing that all Americans should be able to agree on is that the Nazi’s were bad and the rhetoric being used candidates is downright dangerous and unAmerican. I’d hope that if enough of them did that it might be a big enough event to break the bothsiderism bubble and finally be a “have you no sense of decency sir” moment for Trump. Unfortunately they are for the most part far to spineless but one can dream. Maybe at the very least the Lincoln project can do a long form ad parallelizing the words and actions of Trump vs those of Hitler and Mussolini, with the tag line it can happen here. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8836 "2024-10-12T05:43:14Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > What’s the media’s excuse? The media’s excuse is that they are a business, with ledgers and shareholder meetings and all that: the Screaming Cheeto-Faced ShitGibbon (or the Project 2025 guys at his flank) will do more to reduce corporate taxes and greenlight M&A, which makes businesses (including advertisers) happy, so they fail to resoundingly repudiate him. Reporters and editors may fourth-wall some derision, but they are not the ones running the show. I keep hearing that the traditional media does not have control of ohe narrative this time around, but the math on that is challenging to work out. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8837 "2024-10-12T05:54:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I keep hearing that the traditional media does not have control of ohe narrative this time around, but the math on that is challenging to work out. I don’t want the media to “control the narrative”, I want them to report the facts. When someone with the potential to hold the highest office in the nation says threatening, racist, fascist things, I want it to be made known. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8838 "2024-10-12T06:00:58Z")
The traditional media is not without agenda. We want there to be some sense of honor in this country, but we have a system run by sociopaths who reject the quaint notion of honor, and the prime sociopath is leading their charge. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8839 "2024-10-12T06:04:30Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > I want them to report the facts. When someone with the potential to hold the highest office in the nation says threatening, racist, fascist things, I want it to be made known. I agree but conservatives constantly complain about media bias and the deep state and their viewers sponge it up. MAGA has gotten people to [threaten meteorologists](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/11/meteorologists-death-threats-hurricane-conspiracies-misinformation) who reported on the hurricanes. It has gotten that far. So, most media is super cautious to not appear biased and call out the bullshit that Trump says. Heck, even Vance complained to the hosts in the VP debate that they promised to not fact check him…and they obliged. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8840 "2024-10-12T12:21:02Z")
Shit, meteorologists are getting death threats for reporting on hurricanes. Reporting the FACTS about Trump is probably a good way to get yourself killed. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178/8841 "2024-10-12T13:02:07Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Reporting the FACTS about Trump is probably a good way to get yourself killed. Which is one of the reasons why I posted what I did in the [I am dreading Election day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-am-dreading-election-day/1007558/) thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=440) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178.md?page=442)