# How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 1)

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-1/942178 "2021-05-15T18:35:41Z")\
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I know Trump is lying about countries emptying their prisons and mental hospitals to allow emigration to the US. But I’m wondering how he came up with this. Is there _any_ evidence or any such thing happening even once that he’s basing this on?

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Good article that does a deep dive on Venezuela, in particular:

> **[Crime Drop in Venezuela Does Not Prove Trump's Claim the Country Is Sending...](https://www.factcheck.org/2024/06/crime-drop-in-venezuela-does-not-prove-trumps-claim-the-country-is-sending-criminals-to-u-s/)**
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> In virtually all of his recent speeches, former President Donald Trump has been citing a reported drop in crime in Venezuela as evidence that the economically and politically beleaguered country is sending its criminals to the U.S. Experts in and out...

TL;DR: Trump says (without evidence) …

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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I see in the news this morning that Ol’ Asshat is whining because his donors are getting tired of writing checks so he can jet around the country on what has to be a very expensive plane to operate and maintain. They’re probably also annoyed that he can’t stick to policy and insists on rambling nonsense and lies to entertain his audiences while nearby he’s pimping his latest made-in-China crap.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I see in the news this morning that Ol’ Asshat is whining

when I first looked at that, I thought, you spelled _al Asshat_ wrong

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> when I first looked at that, I thought, you spelled _al Asshat_ wrong

How about Prime Minister Asswipe (pronounced ass-wee-pay)?

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> the prime sociopath is leading their charge.

I would say the window has slipped from sociopathy to psycopathy.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Trump’s just going all-in with this and I can’t see it ending well for anyone:
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> [https://newrepublic.com/post/187115/donald-trump-rally-nazi-bloodthirsty-immigration-threat](https://newrepublic.com/post/187115/donald-trump-rally-nazi-bloodthirsty-immigration-threat)
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> > … “They took the criminals out of Caracas, and they put them along your border, and they said if you ever come back, we’re going to kill you,” Trump said.  
> > “Think of that!” he continued. “We have to live with these animals. But we won’t live with them for long!”
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> At that, one person in the crowd shouted, “Kill them!”

I’m struggling to understand how Spanish-speaking voters can hear this and _ **fail to understand that the “Kill them” could very well be applied to them and to their families.** _

Are the shooters that Trump urges to action going to stop to check on the actual life history of any Spanish-speaking person they encounter? Or are they just going to assume that the person is a perpetrator of Trump’s “Migrant Crime”—and act according to the instructions their god-king has given them?

Why do “Latinos for Trump” exist, in the face of this obvious provocation to violence against them? (It’s an actual organization, with leaders who need to explain WHY Trump’s hate-speech is okay by them.)

The only thing that comes to mind to explain all this is the siloed media. Maybe the vast majority of pro-Trump Spanish-speaking Americans experience **only** right-wing outlets that never report on Trump’s remarks? That carefully censor this particular Trump rally and all similar ones? So that they simply are not aware of what he says?

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I know Trump is lying about countries emptying their prisons and mental hospitals to allow emigration to the US. But I’m wondering how he came up with this. Is there _any_ evidence or any such thing happening even once that he’s basing this on?

They’re seeking asylum therefore they must have been released from asylums?  
And yes, Trump is that stupid that he doesn’t know that words are polysemous . . . polysemous being the fabric cheap, ‘off the rack’, suits are made from.

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Makes perfect sense… for crazy people, fools and those living in Trumpworld.

But I repeat myself.

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Why do “Latinos for Trump” exist

Seems to me it was quite effectively debunked here, when a photo of a “Latinos for (Individual-ONE)” sign was shown, written in defective Latin.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Seems to me it was quite effectively debunked here, when a photo of a “Latinos for (Individual-ONE)” sign was shown, written in defective Latin.

Yeah, that was funny.

But it appears to be a real organization. At this wikipedia page, links to it may be found (I haven’t clicked on them myself, but the wikipedia page does appear to be genuine.)

> **[Latinos for Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinos_for_Trump)**
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> Latinos for Trump (Spanish: Latinos para Trump) is a coalition of Latino supporters of Donald Trump, formed in the U.S. state of Florida in June 2019. As of the 2024 presidential election cycle it has expanded beyond Florida with an active presence nationally, especially in the Southwest, Puerto Rico, and the Mexican American community.
> As in any election cycle, the Latino vote is split between candidates across the political spectrum. Although the vast majority of Latinos for Trump support ca...

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> One of his kids shares my name. There aren’t enough hot showers in the world to scrub that away.

Don Jr.? 😉

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There really is no bottom for Trump. He seems to be actively trying to be as awful as possible.

I’d be willing to bet the SDMB would ban him from posting.

> **[Trump Called Harris 'Retarded,' Railed Against Jews Supporting Her: Report](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-reportedly-called-harris-retarded-complained-jewish-support_n_670a8c57e4b0c2f4a135376f)**
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> Donald Trump is said to have used the slur at a Trump Tower dinner, where he also suggested that donors need to provide more help to his campaign.

> Former President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) called Vice President [Kamala Harris](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/kamala-harris) “retarded” at a recent dinner in New York City, where he also railed against Jewish voters supporting her amid the White House race, according to a new report.
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> \< snip \>
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> The Times, citing seven people with knowledge of the dinner who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Trump suggested that donors should be grateful to him, with the former president boasting about giving them tax breaks.

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I’d be willing to bet the SDMB would ban him from posting.

The only question is **why** he’d be banned. Trolling? Personal attacks? Racist/misogynistic/transphobic slurs? Maybe just being a jerk?

I’m sure he’d constantly hijack threads too.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The only question is **why** he’d be banned. Trolling? Personal attacks? Racist/misogynistic/transphobic slurs? Maybe just being a jerk?

He wouldn’t be banned for any specific reason. By that, I mean that he has multiple violations of every reason, so he would be banned for his entire posting history. Including sock puppets.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The only question is **why** he’d be banned. Trolling? Personal attacks? Racist/misogynistic/transphobic slurs? Maybe just being a jerk?

Lies. His blatant lies for which he refuses to offer any citation beyond “people are saying” or “I saw it on TV.”

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > One of his kids shares my name. There aren’t enough hot showers in the world to scrub that away.
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> Don Jr.? 😉

I was guessing Tiffany. 😜

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> …I mean that he has multiple violations of every reason, so he would be banned for his entire posting history.

Quite the indictment of a former and possibly future president of the United States (I 100% agree with you).

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Lies. His blatant lies for which he refuses to offer any citation beyond “people are saying” or “I saw it on TV.”

Ah. The “My post is my cite” guy returns.

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> [@from Whack-a-Mole's link](#):
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> said Trump suggested that donors should be grateful to him, with the former president boasting about giving them tax breaks.

Well, yeah, all the profits they get from his tax breaks should be donated to him so he can keep giving them tax breaks. Duh.

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